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Old 12-13-2014, 10:56 AM   #1
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Mickey Loomis on the hot seat?

Is Saints GM Mickey Loomis on the Hot Seat?

The article raises an interesting point. I think Loomis is good at about everything except drafting defensive talent. Maybe its the coaches faults for not developing them, but whatever the case it needs to be fixed quickly.
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Re: Mickey Loomis on the hot seat?

Just move him to a bean counting role and bring in somebody better on the on field football side of things
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Old 12-13-2014, 11:34 AM   #3
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Re: Mickey Loomis on the hot seat?

I think Loomis only does one thing well; dealing with the cap. Every year he pulls some amazing things off with the cap.

However, Loomis' ability to draft talent is non-existent. He got lucky with a few small school guys many years ago, but since then he has failed to bring new talent in particularly on the defensive side.

His job should be on the line as much as Rob Ryan's.
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Re: Mickey Loomis on the hot seat?

Loomis isn't directly responsible for our draft failures, but he's accountable.

I expect the real problem will be addressed this off-season.




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Re: Mickey Loomis on the hot seat?

Loomis is on record as saying I do not football players and their skill sets. this all came about with the wire taping issues years back. he said he is the last person to spy on anyone on the field because he knows little about what is going on out there.

no some of the contracts he has just made he may have a time explaining.

but when it comes to pulling a wabbit out of the hat he is one of the best in the NFL, one more year and the cap numbers can really be addressed. dead money will decrease big time. two years and he is sitting good.

just stop giving out the huge contracts please.
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Loomis is on record as saying I do not football players and their skill sets. this all came about with the wire taping issues years back. he said he is the last person to spy on anyone on the field because he knows little about what is going on out there.

no some of the contracts he has just made he may have a time explaining.

but when it comes to pulling a wabbit out of the hat he is one of the best in the NFL, one more year and the cap numbers can really be addressed. dead money will decrease big time. two years and he is sitting good.

just stop giving out the huge contracts please.
Yep, Loomis is basically a very good CEO/CFO. Thats what GM's do in the NFL now.

He's one of the best in the NFL but has his flaws. As you said, he over-pays too much, and the scouting department requires some serious attention this off-season.
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Re: Mickey Loomis on the hot seat?

After this season no one's job should be safe, no one's.
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Re: Mickey Loomis on the hot seat?

Rookies and drafties, are a tougher call.
Lots of college talent falls flat in translation to the NFL.
FA's have film and results, successes and failures at this level.
No excuse when we get those wrong.
All said, Loomis is just one vote.
Payton, Carmichael, Ryan, Pace, Reiprish all have to raise their hands.
And thats after the scouts have recommended the guy or brought him up for a vote.
Our money is funny lately. Success does that to a team.
We tried to win cheap for a longgggggggggggg time. Didn't work very well.
Loomis' job is fine. 11 heads are still better than one when evaluating talent.
We have to finds guys that fit well what we/they (Payton and company) are trying to do.
And get better at doing what fits or level of talent.
ie: Don't press with with guys that are slow, and can't turn and go. Play zone.
If we can't run the ball, forget about play action...not fooling or freezing anybody.
Somethings in the water this season. I still can't put my finger on it.
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I'm tired of our team bringing in all these "project" players

Like, yeah let's bring this player in because he COULD be decent in about 4 seasons time

Bring in a player that knows football, that can compete straight away
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