Are the young bloods on d really better?

ChrisXVI · 12-17-2014, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Agree about Warren but who do you bench Bush or Vaccaro? We have room for 3 safety sets but not 4, and I think Bush is better than Vaccaro at just about everything. Maybe we should trade Vaccaro while he still has some value.

Tough call. Some of that will depend on who our defensive coordinator is next season. My initial thought was to let Bush go but I have no real reason for that.

brees84 · 12-17-2014, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Maybe we should trade Vaccaro while he still has some value.

Vaccaro for Dion Jordan. lol

Papa Voodoo · 12-17-2014, 12:13 PM

We almost let Bush walk this year. They will keep KV around IMO. Warren laid some wood in that game so, if they continue to play at a high level, I say Keep KV in his 3rd spot with Warren and Byrd at safety. We still need linebackers that can run, not just thump. Hawthorne, Lofton, and 98 (mind went blank) are all severe liabilities in pass coverage. We need a Vilma out there.

Mr.Riaton · 12-17-2014, 01:31 PM

I remember watching highlights of Pierre Warren before preseason started and being very optimistic about him. After the first couple of preseason games,I was pretty excited about him. Glad to have him back. On a different note, I think Vacarro is having a bad year. He is a very talented player and it showed last season. I like the idea of Byrd and Warren deep with Vacarro roaming around closer in. Bush can be substituted in when needed. We have talent back there, we just need somebody to bring it together. If we can grab a good cb in FA and draft a stud LB or two ( preferably without a history of injuries),I think we would be set on D.

MarchingOn · 12-17-2014, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Didn't the vikes sign him off our practice squad?

Don't think so. It appears we cut him from our PS and Vikes signed him in Oct. It was a surprise.

New Orleans Saints roster, practice squad: A closer look at 3 newcomers | NOLA.com

November article above says: "Pierre Warren

An undrafted free agent out of Jacksonville State (which he left after his junior year), Warren was a standout in training camp. So it was a mild surprise when the Saints cut him from the practice squad.

The Minnesota Vikings added him to their squad in October, and he worked there until he was signed to the active roster by the Saints this week.

Warren is familiar with the defense and showed a knack for making plays in camp. While it's hard to imagine him playing a lot on Monday night, the Saints have so few options that it's possible."

saintsfan1976 · 12-17-2014, 04:42 PM

The difference between Cutler and Ryan is night and day.

Our secondary was able to prey on Cutler's mistakes. Matty doesn't make as many.

spkb25 · 12-17-2014, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by MarchingOn

Don't think so. It appears we cut him from our PS and Vikes signed him in Oct. It was a surprise.

New Orleans Saints roster, practice squad: A closer look at 3 newcomers | NOLA.com

November article above says: "Pierre Warren

An undrafted free agent out of Jacksonville State (which he left after his junior year), Warren was a standout in training camp. So it was a mild surprise when the Saints cut him from the practice squad.

The Minnesota Vikings added him to their squad in October, and he worked there until he was signed to the active roster by the Saints this week.

Warren is familiar with the defense and showed a knack for making plays in camp. While it's hard to imagine him playing a lot on Monday night, the Saints have so few options that it's possible."

Ahhh, for some reason I thought they signed him directly from our practice squad, good info

hagan714 · 12-17-2014, 06:43 PM

take the bears as a ray of hope

we will see what happens against the falcons. then we will have an idea

but the young bucks looked hungry and were enjoying themselves.

NonieT · 12-17-2014, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Agree about Warren but who do you bench Bush or Vaccaro? We have room for 3 safety sets but not 4, and I think Bush is better than Vaccaro at just about everything. Maybe we should trade Vaccaro while he still has some value.

Yeah. You just keep dreamin'.

captainshawn · 12-17-2014, 07:57 PM

The team that lost to the panties last week would have made the yogi's look like SB contenders. So I would say this was a vast improvement.

12-17-2014, 11:18 AM	#21
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Are the young bloods on d really better? Originally Posted by blackangold Agree about Warren but who do you bench Bush or Vaccaro? We have room for 3 safety sets but not 4, and I think Bush is better than Vaccaro at just about everything. Maybe we should trade Vaccaro while he still has some value. Tough call. Some of that will depend on who our defensive coordinator is next season. My initial thought was to let Bush go but I have no real reason for that.

12-17-2014, 11:19 AM	#22
brees84 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,015	Re: Are the young bloods on d really better? Originally Posted by blackangold Maybe we should trade Vaccaro while he still has some value. Vaccaro for Dion Jordan. lol
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12-17-2014, 12:13 PM	#23
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,628	Re: Are the young bloods on d really better? We almost let Bush walk this year. They will keep KV around IMO. Warren laid some wood in that game so, if they continue to play at a high level, I say Keep KV in his 3rd spot with Warren and Byrd at safety. We still need linebackers that can run, not just thump. Hawthorne, Lofton, and 98 (mind went blank) are all severe liabilities in pass coverage. We need a Vilma out there.

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Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,246	Re: Are the young bloods on d really better? I remember watching highlights of Pierre Warren before preseason started and being very optimistic about him. After the first couple of preseason games,I was pretty excited about him. Glad to have him back. On a different note, I think Vacarro is having a bad year. He is a very talented player and it showed last season. I like the idea of Byrd and Warren deep with Vacarro roaming around closer in. Bush can be substituted in when needed. We have talent back there, we just need somebody to bring it together. If we can grab a good cb in FA and draft a stud LB or two ( preferably without a history of injuries),I think we would be set on D. dizzle88, ChrisXVI and brees84 like this.

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MarchingOn 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 387 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Are the young bloods on d really better? Originally Posted by spkb25 Didn't the vikes sign him off our practice squad? Don't think so. It appears we cut him from our PS and Vikes signed him in Oct. It was a surprise. New Orleans Saints roster, practice squad: A closer look at 3 newcomers \| NOLA.com November article above says: "Pierre Warren An undrafted free agent out of Jacksonville State (which he left after his junior year), Warren was a standout in training camp. So it was a mild surprise when the Saints cut him from the practice squad. The Minnesota Vikings added him to their squad in October, and he worked there until he was signed to the active roster by the Saints this week. Warren is familiar with the defense and showed a knack for making plays in camp. While it's hard to imagine him playing a lot on Monday night, the Saints have so few options that it's possible."

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,057	Re: Are the young bloods on d really better? Originally Posted by MarchingOn Don't think so. It appears we cut him from our PS and Vikes signed him in Oct. It was a surprise. New Orleans Saints roster, practice squad: A closer look at 3 newcomers \| NOLA.com November article above says: "Pierre Warren An undrafted free agent out of Jacksonville State (which he left after his junior year), Warren was a standout in training camp. So it was a mild surprise when the Saints cut him from the practice squad. The Minnesota Vikings added him to their squad in October, and he worked there until he was signed to the active roster by the Saints this week. Warren is familiar with the defense and showed a knack for making plays in camp. While it's hard to imagine him playing a lot on Monday night, the Saints have so few options that it's possible." Ahhh, for some reason I thought they signed him directly from our practice squad, good info

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Are the young bloods on d really better? take the bears as a ray of hope we will see what happens against the falcons. then we will have an idea but the young bucks looked hungry and were enjoying themselves.

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NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Are the young bloods on d really better? Originally Posted by blackangold Agree about Warren but who do you bench Bush or Vaccaro? We have room for 3 safety sets but not 4, and I think Bush is better than Vaccaro at just about everything. Maybe we should trade Vaccaro while he still has some value. Yeah. You just keep dreamin'.
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