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Danno 12-16-2014 09:51 AM

Saints over Bears, what did you like the most?
 
I thought there were several things that I really liked.

Nick Toon, after the early fumble he bounced back. You can see the confidence building. Good to know we went back to him after the early blunder.

Pierre Warren, another game, more experience, more confidence. This kid looks like he can play in this league.

Akiem Hicks, Now that’s the Hicks we thought we’d see all year.

David Hawthorne, looked faster and more intense than I’ve ever seen.

Josh Hill, more confidence building for him. Two TD’s and it looks like he’s not just a 3rd/4th option anymore.

Terrance Frederick and Jamarca Sanford, put the starters on notice. “Tighten up, we’re right on your tail and we want your job”.

Beastmode 12-16-2014 09:58 AM

Re: Saints over Bears, what did you like the most?
 
Lewis had some really nice PDs.

ChrisXVI 12-16-2014 10:02 AM

Re: Saints over Bears, what did you like the most?
 
What I liked was running more of the base 3-4 defense with Haralson and Humber at OLB. We were able to use Galette in his best role: situational pass rusher when we went to the four man fronts.

foreverfan 12-16-2014 10:04 AM

Re: Saints over Bears, what did you like the most?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 631808)
I thought there were several things that I really liked.

Nick Toon, after the early fumble he bounced back. You can see the confidence building. Good to know we went back to him after the early blunder.

Pierre Warren, another game, more experience, more confidence. This kid looks like he can play in this league.

Akiem Hicks, Now that’s the Hicks we thought we’d see all year.

David Hawthorne, looked faster and more intense than I’ve ever seen.

Josh Hill, more confidence building for him. Two TD’s and it looks like he’s not just a 3rd/4th option anymore.

Terrance Frederick and Jamarca Sanford, put the starters on notice. “Tighten up, we’re right on your tail and we want your job”.

Not impressed :rolleyes: yet. Hard to tell since the Bears suck. It's foolish to think :confused: we turned any type of corner. It's a joke :dunce: if we make the playoffs, but if we win the :angel: Superbowl... I will shut up and be excited. ;)

Jack Vegas 12-16-2014 10:08 AM

Re: Saints over Bears, what did you like the most?
 
Colston, who played like a competent NFL receiver for the first time in a long while. No drops, fumbles or other major screw ups.

Middle of the O-line played very well.

defensively I liked the play of Frederick and Vacarro a lot in the secondary. Vacarro is much better back in his old role as hybrid corner/safety. John Jenkins looked pretty good too. Everyone else has been mentioned already I am sure.

brees84 12-16-2014 10:12 AM

Re: Saints over Bears, what did you like the most?
 
I liked Bears O-line and Cutler's ability to recognize the blitz.
I may be crazy but this game can hurt us vs Atlanta. I'm not worried about Keenan Lewis (he said something about bears that I liked) but rest of the team... Don't get overconfident. CHI team is pure garbage. ATL is playing better then most of the people think.

hagan714 12-16-2014 10:26 AM

Re: Saints over Bears, what did you like the most?
 
we beat the team we should have beat and did it right. i am not taking anything away from this game except the bears are done for the season and really do not look like a team. watch the off season waiver wire.

falcons will not go down easy as we all know.

ask me after that one

SaintsBro 12-16-2014 10:27 AM

Re: Saints over Bears, what did you like the most?
 
Whatever Payton did or said to motivate them during the week, he did the right thing. There was none of the lethargy or disinterest or spoiled attitude that we have seen all year. They looked like the normal Sean Payton Saints that we are used to seeing. They attacked and attacked, and played pedal to the metal football.

Only once early on, did I remember seeing an incomplete pass, there was contact and the Saints receiver (can't remember who it was) looked around at the refs like he desperately wanted them to throw a flag -- the play was over and done, and his body language was being a big whiny baby about it. That only happened once that I saw. Which is something they do ALL THE TIME when they are losing. In the bad games they always get that body language of being spoiled babies or prima donnas, begging the refs for help, and there wasn't hardly any of that whiny attitude on display last night. They looked like how a football team is supposed to act.

papz 12-16-2014 10:29 AM

Re: Saints over Bears, what did you like the most?
 
Pressure. When we can get pressure, especially right up the middle, everything else will fall in place. It was great to see that last night.

Saintaintso 12-16-2014 10:42 AM

Re: Saints over Bears, what did you like the most?
 
Putting the starters on notice isn't enough ... They need to be permanently sidelined if they cannot compete.

Literally a bunch of guys off of the practice squad cover far better than our beloved starters. No time to learn the system no time to mesh nothing , just follow your assignment and make plays ....

This speaks volumes on our starters inability to perform adequately when guys off of the street come in and Make it look so easy.

Lord_Saint83 12-16-2014 10:57 AM

Re: Saints over Bears, what did you like the most?
 
The defense looked really good if they play like this Sunday they will win. Pierre Warren keeps impressing me. My name for him is Sharper Jr.

dizzle88 12-16-2014 11:04 AM

Re: Saints over Bears, what did you like the most?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 631808)
I thought there were several things that I really liked.

Nick Toon, after the early fumble he bounced back. You can see the confidence building. Good to know we went back to him after the early blunder.

Pierre Warren, another game, more experience, more confidence. This kid looks like he can play in this league.

Akiem Hicks, Now that’s the Hicks we thought we’d see all year.

David Hawthorne, looked faster and more intense than I’ve ever seen.

Josh Hill, more confidence building for him. Two TD’s and it looks like he’s not just a 3rd/4th option anymore.

Terrance Frederick and Jamarca Sanford, put the starters on notice. “Tighten up, we’re right on your tail and we want your job”.

Pretty much agree with all the points

I was glad SP didn't bench toon after the fumble, he came back and made some nice catches, its all experience for him and I hope he can be a starter next year

Hicks pushing their OL into cutler and then dragging him down with one hand was priceless

No coverage breakdowns, the secondary played a fundamentally sound game

Pierre warren made the plays when they were there - wished he could have run one all the way back.

Nice diving interception by P-rob.

PT running the screen and it taking 6 bears players to tackle him.

lumm0x 12-16-2014 11:16 AM

Re: Saints over Bears, what did you like the most?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 631815)

Middle of the O-line played very well.

Only part I disagree with. Grubbs and Goodwin were the weakest part of our offense. They had many plays where they got blown up ruining the play. Everyone else on both sides of the ball were solid. I had these 2 picked out as our dunce cap boys of the evening.

ScottF 12-16-2014 11:33 AM

Re: Saints over Bears, what did you like the most?
 
We beat a very bad team. Cutler is the antithesis of a leader. No one on that side of the field looked at all like they wanted to be there.

As dominating as we were in the first half, it was 7-0 with 30 seconds left.
I'm glad we won, but we still have work to do.

44Champs 12-16-2014 11:54 AM

Re: Saints over Bears, what did you like the most?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 631826)
Whatever Payton did or said to motivate them during the week, he did the right thing. There was none of the lethargy or disinterest or spoiled attitude that we have seen all year. They looked like the normal Sean Payton Saints that we are used to seeing. They attacked and attacked, and played pedal to the metal football.

Only once early on, did I remember seeing an incomplete pass, there was contact and the Saints receiver (can't remember who it was) looked around at the refs like he desperately wanted them to throw a flag -- the play was over and done, and his body language was being a big whiny baby about it. That only happened once that I saw. Which is something they do ALL THE TIME when they are losing. In the bad games they always get that body language of being spoiled babies or prima donnas, begging the refs for help, and there wasn't hardly any of that whiny attitude on display last night. They looked like how a football team is supposed to act.

Sounds like you're talking about Graham. Always looking for a flag.

ikecomp 12-16-2014 01:12 PM

Re: Saints over Bears, what did you like the most?
 
I love anytime we can get a win but this won't be only about what I like.

What I liked:

-Good pressure from the dline all game
-Fundamentally sound coverage for most of the game
-Commitment to run the ball even though it wasn't working that well
-Quick SMART decisions from brees throughout the game
-Very good route running and separation by our receivers

What I didn't like:

-Poor play by the kicking team (penalty and missed field goal)
-Poor interior line play by our guards and center. They were let off the hook a lot by the screen game and quick throws by drew.
-Poor edge control by our linebackers and dlineman (atlanta will look to attack this with receiver screens all game.)
-Stale unimaginative run plays. Our interior line is not very good so we need to disguise our runs a little better because they got no push against the bears

I would give our team B/B-.

K Major 12-16-2014 01:13 PM

Re: Saints over Bears, what did you like the most?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 631847)
We beat a very bad team. Cutler is the antithesis of a leader. No one on that side of the field looked at all like they wanted to be there.

ScottF,
Agreed. I hear you loud and clear but the Bears are still a NFL professional franchise, capable of beating any team in the league. A Jeffries, Matt Forte, Martellus Bennett etc aren't exactly Oakland Raider material. We started off sloppy however last night was a step in the right direction. The Saints are still a dangerous ball club when all 8 cylinders are clicking.

Trust and believe brother :bandg:

ScottF 12-16-2014 01:27 PM

Re: Saints over Bears, what did you like the most?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 631859)
ScottF,
Agreed. I hear you loud and clear but the Bears are still a NFL professional franchise, capable of beating any team in the league. A Jeffries, Matt Forte, Martellus Bennett etc aren't exactly Oakland Raider material. We started off sloppy however last night was a step in the right direction. The Saints are still a dangerous ball club when all 8 cylinders are clicking.

Trust and believe brother :bandg:

I'm trying...
but so are the Saints ;)

ChrisXVI 12-16-2014 01:31 PM

Re: Saints over Bears, what did you like the most?
 
Senio Kelemete subbed in for Ben Grubbs at certain times... I don't know if Grubbs was banged up or if Payton wanted a look at Kelemete for future reference.

Jack Vegas 12-16-2014 04:47 PM

Re: Saints over Bears, what did you like the most?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lumm0x (Post 631837)
Only part I disagree with. Grubbs and Goodwin were the weakest part of our offense. They had many plays where they got blown up ruining the play. Everyone else on both sides of the ball were solid. I had these 2 picked out as our dunce cap boys of the evening.

I mean compared to most of the year, they did a much better job. Brees was able to step into his throws for the most part. I have been dogging Goodwin all year, he stinks. Grubbs isn't terrible, but he's not worth his big contract either.

Barry from MS 12-16-2014 05:11 PM

Re: Saints over Bears, what did you like the most?
 
I absolutely have a man-crush on having the "Hicks/Jenkins Rotation" over Center. That showed up in the run defense & the pass rush. Made the entire defense better; it all starts in the middle. Jenkins actually led the team in tackles last night.

A very, very close second is Pierre Warren's play...grant it, is was against Cutler & an inexperienced WR corps. But this was on MNF at Soldier Field. This MAN showed up and balled. Them other Saints secondary players better start gathering up material for their resumes...Warren is a NFL Playmaker (see Baltimore game at the goal line for further info). You Do Not let playmakers walk, regardless of where they are drafted or where they come from. Like...this...man.

vpheughan 12-16-2014 05:18 PM

Re: Saints over Bears, what did you like the most?
 
Hey, slow this wagon down a little so I can climb back on!

Mickey and Shaun, GENIUS!!! Rob Ryan GENIUS!!

Beasts all of them in particular JuneYah!

Only downside is We Won the game so we are feeling it today! Hope they can recover by Sunday!

Danno 12-16-2014 05:31 PM

Re: Saints over Bears, what did you like the most?
 
I'm worried about a hangover too VP, but I think the players know Chicago is a weak team so I don't think they're beating their chests today.

We simply did what a contender is supposed to do. We beat a weak team by 3 scores at their house.

I thionk by now they all know thats all we really did. We played to our potential, nothing more.

If we can play to our potential we can beat any team not named Seattle. We'll need just a little extra to beat them.

skymike 12-16-2014 05:31 PM

Re: Saints over Bears, what did you like the most?
 
I thought the final score was pretty, and so are our shiny gold helmets.
Beyond that, it was a garbage win over a garbage team.

I laud guys on here like Danno & Dizzle, who offer more nuts & bolts analysis, than me, but I am disturbed by how poorly our offense played, vs. a team that is already on vacation. You dominate a team for a half of football, you should have more than 7 points.

But more disturbing was when we were up by 3 TD's, and suddenly could not make a first down, and Payton did not go line diving to run clock. He was still calling Payton plays. At this same point, the defensive backfield was gearing up to take a dive. The Saints, to me, appeared to be trying their damndest to go '92 Oilers, but the Bears simply refused to walk thru the open door, rolled over, and played dead for us. About 30 other teams would have pulled a Hail Mary type comeback win over us.

Yall know me, well many of you. I'm practically a walking production of Up With People, when it comes to my Saints. (google it, kids) But lets not fool ourselves. We suck goat nuts, and our offense is especially flacid in pressure situations. We're horrible both ways, and I wont be surprised if both the Falcons, AND Tampa thump us.
...in our supposed house.


- Im Mikey, and I just dont know anymore.

billyt81 12-17-2014 01:20 AM

Re: Saints over Bears, what did you like the most?
 
Hawthorne was amazing! Pierre Warren...wow! I thought Toon and Stills played well. I wanna see more of Toon. He runs well with the ball and can break tackles. I still think we should run more. Have to admit I always dogged Stills but he may be coming around.

lsutigerfan 12-17-2014 03:30 AM

Re: Saints over Bears, what did you like the most?
 
Pressure on the QB, Pressure on the QB, Pressure on the QB!!!!!!

No coincidence you pressure the QB you create turnovers.

ScottF 12-17-2014 06:44 AM

Re: Saints over Bears, what did you like the most?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skymike (Post 631906)
I thought the final score was pretty, and so are our shiny gold helmets.
Beyond that, it was a garbage win over a garbage team.

I laud guys on here like Danno & Dizzle, who offer more nuts & bolts analysis, than me, but I am disturbed by how poorly our offense played, vs. a team that is already on vacation. You dominate a team for a half of football, you should have more than 7 points.

But more disturbing was when we were up by 3 TD's, and suddenly could not make a first down, and Payton did not go line diving to run clock. He was still calling Payton plays. At this same point, the defensive backfield was gearing up to take a dive. The Saints, to me, appeared to be trying their damndest to go '92 Oilers, but the Bears simply refused to walk thru the open door, rolled over, and played dead for us. About 30 other teams would have pulled a Hail Mary type comeback win over us.

Yall know me, well many of you. I'm practically a walking production of Up With People, when it comes to my Saints. (google it, kids) But lets not fool ourselves. We suck goat nuts, and our offense is especially flacid in pressure situations. We're horrible both ways, and I wont be surprised if both the Falcons, AND Tampa thump us.
...in our supposed house.


- Im Mikey, and I just dont know anymore.

Yep. We don't have a knockout punch.
We let teams hang around all game, and the good ones have come back and beat us.
The Bears self-destructed in front of our eyes, but even then, they still made it interesting at the end

saintsfan1976 12-17-2014 07:08 AM

Re: Saints over Bears, what did you like the most?
 
Two things: O line and D line.

Both played to their abilities and the overall performance was a result.

Cruize 12-17-2014 08:46 AM

Re: Saints over Bears, what did you like the most?
 
W.

Rugby Saint II 12-17-2014 11:53 AM

Re: Saints over Bears, what did you like the most?
 
I liked the fact that we fumbled and got the ball back before a score.


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