GumboBC

Did you doubt he had more turnovers than Brooks? Hey,dude, if I tell you a rooster can pull a wagon.. Hitch that sucker up... :P

Yes, the Panthers went to the SuperBowl despite their QB leading the NFL in turnovers.

Just goes to show you how important the supporting cast is.

Hey, suppose Brooks might need a better supporting cast.

Umm.. hey, we didn\'t even lose one game after our defense started playing better. Imagine that!!

GumboBC

Hi folks...

I just wanted to tell you guys that I\'m only messin\' around with WhoDat.

I\'m not really serious with WhoDat. Well, not nearly to the extent that it must sound.

He knows I\'m only playing ....

Anyway, I am breaking the rules.

I admit, it\'s VERY HARD for me to follow the rules when talking to WhoDat. He\'s my favorite member on here. Him and Gator. I suppose it\'s because we all know each other so well ..

But, it\'s been brought to my attention that I need to follow the rules with everyone. And I agree.

So, I apolojize for getting off track.

I\'m not going to bring up old topics just to prove a point. So, WhoDat, it ain\'t over, it\'s just changing a lil\' bit!!

BrooksMustGo

Ok, I don\'t get this thread anymore.

Billy wants to poop on the carpet and rub WhoDat\'s nose it.
WhoDat documents a lot of previous statements to rub Billy\'s nose in.

That part I get.

I don\'t understand why Billy keeps bringing the Carolina QB into the discussion? He\'s been gone 2 years and been to the superbowl, I\'m not sure why we are comparing him? It also seems that if the basic argument is: \"missing the playoffs, again, isn\'t Leon\'s fault\", then why are we being treated to a long discussion of Leon\'s statistics as compared to the Carolina QB?

I\'m confused. If Leon isn\'t the problem, then why are we talking at length about NOTHING but Leon?

I don\'t think that anyone on this board has decided to blame ONLY Leon and Haslett for finishing 8-8 this year. Quite a few areas of this team are troubled. But at the same time, I\'m not sure that, since it\'s a team sport (as so many like to mention so often to support this or that arugment), that Leon and Haslett can be absolved from any responsibility.

My biggest concern with Leon at present is simply this: his cap number and his future contract demands.

Looking at the other members of his QB class and cousin Mikey, we see.

1. McNabb gets a blockbuster contract for 10 years. Mucho dinero and prestige for Donovan.

2. Culpepper gets a blockbuster contract for 10 years. Mucho dinero and prestige for Daunte.

3. Vick gets a blockbuster contract for 10 years. Mucho dinero and prestige for Vick.

4. Leon--thinks he\'s a great QB, came out with 2 of those guys, is related to the other, has thrown for 3,000 yards and 20 TDs a year. Based on his last few interviews it almost sounds like Leon thinks he deserved a blockbuster deal of his own. If you want to talk about Leon, let\'s talk about that. I think we\'re going to get another holdout from him this summer.

We can analyze the postmortem of this season for the next several months, but honestly I\'d be quite happy not to discuss the Carolina QB as we try and figure out how to fix this team.

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WhoDat

What\'s funy to me, is that you still don\'t get the comparison I was making. You were trying to take pressure off of your boy Brooks for all his fumbles and shift it to the WRs and O-line. I said turnovers were worse, and you argued. On first down, if AB fumbles an airball pass and the defense recovers, the drive is over. If Wayne Gandy starts early on 1st down, making it 1st and 15, is the drive OVER? Is it impossible for the Saints to convert and keep the drive alive? DO you get it yet?

Thanks Billy, for putting words in my mouth again. Let\'s see if I can succeed at doing the same polarizing that you are an expert at. Of course you don\'t blame Delhomme or Fox, you never blame the COACH or QB for ANYTHING!!! Is that good? Oh, PS - you blamed Delhomme for the Panthers only having 7 wins in YOUR LAST POST.

Flippity Flop, Flippity Flop. LMAO.

Yes Billy, I know that. That\'s why I want Venturi gone more than anyone else, followed closely by Haslett - the defensive minded tough-love coach. Maybe if you read my posts instead of just telling me what you think I said, then you would realize that. I said the defense was the problem 3 years ago - you, on the other hand, suggested we\'d be top-ten last season.

Wait - wasn\'t this your excuse last year too? Last year he had no blocking and his WRs dropped everything. What changed this year? If anything, his WRs caught MORE balls.

Well this explains a lot. I cannot believe that you would even begin to defend his \"I\'m great, my team sucks\" comments. Congratulations, you are the ONLY person I\'ve seen ANYWHERE defend him for that - yeah Billy, looks like you know football.

Name ONE person other than Sullivan, and provide a quote. Don\'t just say I said something, b/c you either lie, have a skewed view of reality, or simply forget. Show me a quote.

That\'s not to say that there aren\'t players I think should be cut - but this is a little exercise to prove just how you say something once, then it becomes fact, then you polarize it to the point where there are only 3 players on this team I think are worthy of keeping. That is simply fiction - but if I\'m wrong, show me a quote.

In every one of my last few posts, I\'ve used YOUR OWN WORDS to show how you really feel. You have not used my posts b/c you can\'t. All you can do is make things up and claim that\'s what I said. As usual, you\'re wrong.



Oh... wait... it\'s been ten minutes... right. Hey guys, Billy and I are just joking around. We really agree on everything. LOL.

\"Excuses, excuses, excuses. That’s all anyone ever makes for the New Orleans Saints’ organization.\" - Eric Narcisse


\"Being a Saints fan is almost like being addicted to crack,\" he said.[i]\"You know you should stop, but you just can\'t.\"

WhoDat

Gator - yeah, I pointed that out earlier too. It\'s just funny.

It\'s not the coach or the QB, it\'s the PLAYERS. (Isn\'t the QB a player?)

Haslett can\'t MAKE them execute. (Isn\'t that his job?)

But WhoDat wants to cut all but 3 of them! (Well if it\'s their fault, then why is that bad?)

Clearly WhoDat doesn\'t know what he\'s talking about. The PLAYERS like Haslett and I\'m going to listen to them. (Wait, I thought it was their fault???)

Plus, coaching doesn\'t matter anyway. Like I said, it\'s the players! (Then why do you care is Haslett is fired?)


It\'s like Bizzaro world. It reminds me of the Iraqi Minister of Intelligence who claimed that there were no Americans in Iraq and that the Iraqis had driven them out of the country as the American tanks rolled into Baghdad behind him.

\"Excuses, excuses, excuses. That’s all anyone ever makes for the New Orleans Saints’ organization.\" - Eric Narcisse


\"Being a Saints fan is almost like being addicted to crack,\" he said.[i]\"You know you should stop, but you just can\'t.\"

saintswhodi

xrotflmao: This is getting too good.