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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I've never understood some fans. I'm talking about those fans who like to blame only the coach and the QB. I can understand that coming from kids but it amazes me that there are folks out there who have been ...

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Old 01-06-2005, 11:15 AM   #1
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I've never understood some fans. I'm talking about those fans who like to blame only the coach and the QB.

I can understand that coming from kids but it amazes me that there are folks out there who have been watching football thier whole lives and they still blame the coach and the QB.

There are a lot of fans here who whine and cry about Brooks. Nevermind the fact that Brooks played behind one of the worst offensive lines in the league.

Those fans refuse to look at much else besides the QB and the coach.

Let me point out a few things that really hurt this team folks. And it ain't the QB and the coach.

1. Terrible offensive line. Couldn't pass block or run block this year.
2. Deuce McAllister was injuried. For most of the year we had no running game to speak of. Teams were ignoring the run and just pinning their ears back.

Those 2 things hurt our offense more than ANYTHING else. And believe it or not folks, even the best of QB's struggle when the have no blocking. Not to mention no running game.

Everyone in this forum shoud be screaming at the top of their lungs for a true left tackle. And for someone to replace Victor (false start) Riely.

I just have to believe some fans aren't interested in the real problems.

Laugh it off if you want to folks. I just don't understand some of you guys. And to think, I used to think some of you were much more knowledgeable than that.


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Old 01-06-2005, 11:28 AM   #2
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...funny
... I don\'t understand why some people defend only one player or one coach in an internet forum no matter what...

.. I would expect that from... oh wait... :rollinglaugh:
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Old 01-06-2005, 11:51 AM   #3
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I agree that the only problem wasnt the QB and Coach. The offensive line was terrible for most of the season, the d-line and lbs coulndt stop the run most of the season, and the corners couldnt cover anybody for the first part of the season. Penalties were a killer this season, play calling was horrible, and slow starts are all a part of coaching and getting your players ready to play. So I think the coach was a problem, not the only problem but a problem. Your QB has to be a leader on the field as well as in the locker room. AB hasnt proven to be that leader that all good teams have to have. I think on most teams the people that get the majority of the blame and reconginition are the coaches and the QB\'s. I dont see any reason why it should be different here.

[Edited on 6/1/2005 by whodatsaintsfan26]
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Old 01-06-2005, 12:29 PM   #4
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Let me point out a few things that really hurt this team folks. And it ain\'t the QB and the coach.

1. Terrible offensive line. Couldn\'t pass block or run block this year.
2. Deuce McAllister was injuried. For most of the year we had no running game to speak of. Teams were ignoring the run and just pinning their ears back.
Both our offensive line and Deuce were fine last year, so what was their excuse then?

EDIT: And yes, Riley needed to be replaced, but I\'ve always thought he was overrated. I don\'t wear blinders, I see what I see and call them on it, regardless of who it is.


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Old 01-06-2005, 12:49 PM   #5
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No the whole team and coaching staff needs to look in the mirror and try to understand why they only seem to get passionate about playing football until their backs were against the wall. Case in point -- with our offense being outscored the way we were in the 1st quarter should have been impossible. Not scoring on our first drive once (you cannot call the TD runback scoring on our 1st possession). We played the season the same way we played the games. Someone woke up and said -- wait we cannot lose again. Now whose fault would that be -- my guess is the guys who are supposed to step up and make sure the team is ready to play would be the coaches and the QB. This is the area I think both let us down.

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Old 01-06-2005, 01:52 PM   #6
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It sure seems to me that most everyone around here feels the same way these days about all issues concerning the Saints... except for a few fans who are unwilling to ever blame the coach or QB for ANYTHING.

C\'mon Billy, do you know how transparent that is? If you\'re going to call me out, call me out.
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Old 01-06-2005, 02:10 PM   #7
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How many years have to go by without us making it into the playoffs before we can start blaming the coach and the QB.
If Haslett was coach for any other team he would have been gone a long, long time ago. I, personally, don\'t have that much of a beef with Haz, other than the fact that he is joined at the hip with AB. I feel that if he can\'t bring himself to give someone else a look-see, then he should be let go and maybe the next guy will let someone else see if he can get it done.

AB is a whole different story. He is not a very likable guy....to the fans or to his teammates. Some of the statements he has made over the years amaze me, and it seems very clear that he only cares about himself and not the team, or he wouldn\'t have dug the hole he presently finds himself in. I know he is talented, but there are plenty of people around with talent. We need a leader who is a team guy and will accept responsiblity for losses whether he feels it is his fault or not. I know it has been said many times, but it warrants repeating. It is the nature of the job...if the team fails and you are the starting QB, you will receive a lion share of the blame, as well as the head coach. It is no different here than any other place. If you can\'t take the heat, which AB doesn\'t seem to be able to do, then maybe you should move on, or, get out of the kitchen.

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Old 01-06-2005, 07:23 PM   #8
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LB - I agree completely. You\'re absolutely right. What disappoints me is that when certain member of this forum say what you just said, myself included, we get jumped on by others, mainly just b/c we made similar statements a long time ago. Nonetheless, you\'re spot on.
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Old 01-06-2005, 10:26 PM   #9
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Bravo Gator! Best post in two months. I\'m even going to have to pull out one of those dumb smiley faces for that one!!

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Old 01-06-2005, 11:16 PM   #10
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Hay GumboBC,
as for your \"Terrible offensive line. Couldn\'t pass block or run block this year\" Duce was hurt early and was out most of the year. He came back and was out of shape. It happens after a layoff. D lines had nothing to respect at all. They just teed off. That\'s why your line was terrible. Yea a left tackle would be nice but a healthy Duce is better.

Now on to others:

\"Penalties were a killer this season, play calling was horrible, and slow starts are all a part of coaching and getting your players ready to play\" What a statement!!!! Wow he should be the next FOX star!!!! whodatsaintsfan26, That statment goes for the bottem half of the nfl. In short I think he means there\'s no leadreship on this team. This them needs leaders. And real leaders don\'t lead by example they lead peroid!

I agree changes need to happen. But I think it\'s more of the coaches that need to go. Ask most NFL anylist who has talent on ofence? New Orleans is up there. Where is our D? Not ranking. Rick V? Strong D? No D! N.O. has talent on D mostly on our D line but with MM it\'s getting better daily. All I can say is \"wait till next year\" yea right. Thanks for letting me waste your time. Oh by the way give me 1 dollar to pay for me being here. Whoops I\'m not Tom. Sorry I\'ll make it up on parking.

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I\'m about half drunk so forget what I said. We\'ll just pay another tax to keep them here.


It\'s all your fault, not mine. The fans should never boo their home team. HAHAHAHA
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