If Manning or Brady heard this crap about them
 

that they are overrated, too short, getting older and no longer is elite they would absolutely speak up in a big way over it. Brees is getting slaughtered by the media for his oline play and he does not have cajones imo to speak up about it. Brees should start standing up for his fans who have to endure the treatment by the media about his arm strength, his accuracy, his age, etc. Because I as a fan am tired of it.

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they both have heard it. Tom did earlier this year.

they went out and won as a team and now both are gods

The issue is winning as a team.

we are seriously missing something on this team. this is a totally dysfunctional family that needs help.

how to deal with a dysfunctional family like the local and national media is impossible. small minds with little for sight and could care less about responsibility for reporting facts.

objectivity has nothing to do with state of things. it all has to do with micro analyzing and sensationalizing what ever they can find to generate conflict and increase their circulation.

remember one thing

These are the same writers that had the division crown and super bowl bound printed up before camp even broke. Idiots the lot of them.

there are very few honest reports left that do not sell out for ratings.

it all entertainment tonight reporting now a days.

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They are professional athletes and get paid a ton of money to:

a) Perform
b) Tune out criticism when they don't

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Saints front office need to follow NE approach with players. They don't believe in over paying & if you don't produce, show you the door quickly.

There needs to be a revolving door approach down in New Orleans if we want to get truly serious about winning titles again.

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and against some of his own fans who are saying so also?

He is a professional sportsperson. He knows the best way to overcome the current bout of criticism is to deliver, not talk about it. Ditto the other side of the coin, in that when he is the flavour of the moment, continue to deliver. Not sit on one's laurels.

The media? They are all crap, as far as I am concerned. They generate headlines to attract your attention, preferably for you to get involved with them, so thay can attract more sponsorship. This is the modern world. Where it is expected that punters will get suckered.

Stay solid within your own environment of WhoDats. You want to go where everybody knows your name, and they're always glad you came. You wanna be where you can see our troubles are all the same, you wanna be where everybody knows your name. That's here buddy. Stuff the media, stuff other team's fans. They do not matter.

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It has been ALL YEAR.
There is no issue with him, only the lack of ability to protect him.

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I don't think Brady or Peyton have thrown as many late game interceptions with the game on the line as drew has.

The O line deserve some blame, but drew is not completely blameless, he's made some very questionable throws this year and it's killed us quite a lot.

I don't think the defense can be blamed for yesterday, they held ATL to 13 points for 3 quarters, drew had the chance to win the game in the 2 minute drill and he messed up yet again.

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I agree that Brees has made some poor decisions. BUT he is a rhythm/timing QB. Because of his lack of size and arm strength the offensive line needs to be very good to keep everything else on schedule. When he's on the run and can't step into his throws it's going to look ugly.

Brady and Manning have both had this issue from time. Brady went through it earlier this year while the Pats o-line was in flux. They got better as the season went on, and now he's an MVP candidate.

We need to get this o-line squared away in the offseason and that involves some tough moves. I think we have to move on from Evans and Goodwin at the very least. For the first time in a while I like both tackles but the inside of the line needs a good overhaul - at the very least two new starters (including Lelito) and Grubbs returning at a sizable pay cut.

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The worse part about it is having to hear our own "fans" talk that crap about our HALL OF FAME quarterback, who is still in a Saints uniform. He has good years left without question, providiong they can start protecting him.
Give him Matt Ryan time from yesterday and let's see how the game turns out. No brainer for me.

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