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Old 12-22-2014, 02:01 PM   #1
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A bright spot

I am going to do my damndest to bring some positivity to this forum and here's something I have enjoyed seeing, which is the emergence of some pretty good young receivers on offense.

Stills looks like a #1 wideout these days. One of the most consistent players on the team. That's great to see from a second-year player, especially at a position where players don't develop quickly. He is extremely polished - catches the ball well, runs great routes, understands how to create space for himself and find soft spots in the D. Basically, a young Lance Moore with lots more speed.

Cooks, before he got hurt, seemed to be putting it together and becoming that multi-purpose weapon that I think we all envisioned. His yardage numbers were not great, but he caught a ton of passes, moved the chains and was starting to become a real deep threat. He is going to be the guy who makes people get out of their seats every time he gets the ball.

Toon has also looked pretty consistent lately and SP seems to have more faith in him with a big increase in playing time. Clearly he is being groomed to take over for Colston as the big inside receiver. Those 4-catch, 40-yard games are nothing to sneeze at when you look at how many different guys typically play in a Payton offense.

I would also throw Josh Hill into this discussion as an up-and-comer. He looks like a guy who could do a lot more if he had more playing time. I'm impressed with his hands and run-after-catch ability. He's even made a few deep plays. I think he could become a pretty valuable part of the offense very soon, much like David Thomas was on the Superbowl team.

As for the wide receivers, this was a position that many here (myself included) considered a weak spot coming into the season. I don't think that's true at this point. Now if we can only rebuild the middle of the o-line as quickly we may get back to being that crazy-good offense again.
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Old 12-22-2014, 02:13 PM   #2
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Good post

I've been impressed with stills and Toon the last couple weeks, the young guys have been one of the few minor bright spots

Excited to see Cooks come back, I don't think we gave Cooks enough touches, WR Reverses and fly sweeps and we needed to send him deep more often!

Someone that I'm excited about, Jalen Saunders!
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Bright spots...
As you mentioned, Stills, Hill, Cooks, Toon,

But I'm also excited to see Warren, Fredericks, Dixon, Sunseri, Byrd, Foster, KRobinson, AJohnson, Edibali, Lelito, etc

We have a lot of young ascending players. A few are bound to impress next year.
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I agree, the young guns started looking like real NFL recievers the last handful of games. They all had some big catches and some young mistakes but I am excited to watch them this weekend and in 2015. Also the new PR/KR has been pretty exciting since his 1st game returning punts. Wish he could have had that TD but maybe next time.
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Definitely might as well throw Jalen Saunders into the conversation as well. Would love to see what he can do besides return kicks. First time I have seen a Saints kick returner get past the 21 in I don't know how long....what else can he do to prove himself in the NFL? And why not give him a chance to prove it?
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all is not lost for sure. Benson just needs to kick in some heads that is all. just like the Spag year it will not take a whole lot to turn this around. maybe a two eyed tailless monkey is required this time. not a eyed one
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Dixon, Edebali, Warren.

I think that people are not fair with Dixon (often left 1 on 1 with best WRs in the game + stupid 10 yds cushion) but he played well for a rookie. Great quickness.

Edebali (fast athletic guy)

Warren (special talent, if we do our job well he may become on of the best safeties in the game)

On offense it's development of Kenny Stills.
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I am going to do my damndest to bring some positivity to this forum and here's something I have enjoyed seeing, which is the emergence of some pretty good young receivers on offense.

Stills looks like a #1 wideout these days. One of the most consistent players on the team. That's great to see from a second-year player, especially at a position where players don't develop quickly. He is extremely polished - catches the ball well, runs great routes, understands how to create space for himself and find soft spots in the D. Basically, a young Lance Moore with lots more speed.

Cooks, before he got hurt, seemed to be putting it together and becoming that multi-purpose weapon that I think we all envisioned. His yardage numbers were not great, but he caught a ton of passes, moved the chains and was starting to become a real deep threat. He is going to be the guy who makes people get out of their seats every time he gets the ball.

Toon has also looked pretty consistent lately and SP seems to have more faith in him with a big increase in playing time. Clearly he is being groomed to take over for Colston as the big inside receiver. Those 4-catch, 40-yard games are nothing to sneeze at when you look at how many different guys typically play in a Payton offense.

I would also throw Josh Hill into this discussion as an up-and-comer. He looks like a guy who could do a lot more if he had more playing time. I'm impressed with his hands and run-after-catch ability. He's even made a few deep plays. I think he could become a pretty valuable part of the offense very soon, much like David Thomas was on the Superbowl team.

As for the wide receivers, this was a position that many here (myself included) considered a weak spot coming into the season. I don't think that's true at this point. Now if we can only rebuild the middle of the o-line as quickly we may get back to being that crazy-good offense again.
AGREED. Good stuff. But with all that said, a miracle happens & Amari is on the board when we pick....theres no justification in passing on him. I know you agree lol.

As far as rebuilding the middle of the O-line, im liking us to take a shot on Texas A&M's Jarvis Harrison in the middle rounds. Theres something there & wont have to spend too much.
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Re: A bright spot

It's been so nice to see a viable return threat back there. Fredericks and Warren look like roster keepers. I like our receiving core and I still don't think we need to fine a "true number 1" receiver. If by some chance Colston isn't here next year, I think we'll be just fine with Still anchoring it down... and hopefully Toon continues to build on what he's done. Let's face it... we spread the ball around so much, I don't see the point. Stills and Cooks are more than capable of being consistent 80/1000 guys if we choose to utilize them in that manner.
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It's been so nice to see a viable return threat back there. Fredericks and Warren look like roster keepers. I like our receiving core and I still don't think we need to fine a "true number 1" receiver. If by some chance Colston isn't here next year, I think we'll be just fine with Still anchoring it down... and hopefully Toon continues to build on what he's done. Let's face it... we spread the ball around so much, I don't see the point. Stills and Cooks are more than capable of being consistent 80/1000 guys if we choose to utilize them in that manner.

Honestly, and I almost can't believe I'm saying this, whatever is going on with Colston this year worries me a lot more than anything about the younger guys at WR. What the hell happened to him this season? I don't think it's a stretch to say his drops cost us at least 2 games and maybe more.
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