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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Danno He's already the assistant head coach. I don't think he's the problem with our LB's. He may not be the only problem, but he's clearly not the solution. He's been here for a long, long time ...

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Old 12-29-2014, 05:58 PM   #31
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He's already the assistant head coach. I don't think he's the problem with our LB's.
He may not be the only problem, but he's clearly not the solution. He's been here for a long, long time and we continue to get next to nothing out of that position group.

If a coach is worth anything, he can't make excuses about talent, or lack thereof, for his entire career. At some point, you have to show an ability to develop players. He has not done that.
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He may not be the only problem, but he's clearly not the solution. He's been here for a long, long time and we continue to get next to nothing out of that position group.

If a coach is worth anything, he can't make excuses about talent, or lack thereof, for his entire career. At some point, you have to show an ability to develop players. He has not done that.
But every LB thats left here and gone elswhere hasn't played any better. Cassillas and Dunbar are playing just about the same with their new teams as they did here.

Lofton, Vilma, Hawthorne, Humber and Haralson didn't play worse when they came here.

Martez Wilson was even worse when he left here.

I think we simply suck at drafting LB's. There's really no evidence at all that suggests its coaching, but there's plenty of evidence that says we suck at picking LB's.

Of course it might help if we decided to start picking LB's before the 4th round.
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Of course it might help if we decided to start picking LB's before the 4th round.
These mid round "projects" must stop! I would love to see a true beast linebacker drafted, it's almost like Payton doesn't value the defense at all.
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No really a surprise we suck at LB.
Last 5 LBs drafted in round 1/2 by the Saints
Courtney Watson
Mark Fields
Reggie Freeman
Alvin Toles
Rickey Jackson 1981

Five picks in the first two rounds in 34 years.
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Change is a good thing.
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But every LB thats left here and gone elswhere hasn't played any better. Cassillas and Dunbar are playing just about the same with their new teams as they did here.

Lofton, Vilma, Hawthorne, Humber and Haralson didn't play worse when they came here.

Martez Wilson was even worse when he left here.

I think we simply suck at drafting LB's. There's really no evidence at all that suggests its coaching, but there's plenty of evidence that says we suck at picking LB's.

Of course it might help if we decided to start picking LB's before the 4th round.
Martez Wilson was picked in the 3rd round.
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Martez Wilson was picked in the 3rd round.
Well thank you Mr. Helper.
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Old 12-30-2014, 07:26 PM   #38
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Well thank you Mr. Helper.
It's Miss Helper and I just thought I'd point that out.
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