Wesley Mcgriff to join Vandy as the DC(Staying in N.O.)

burningmetal · 12-29-2014, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

He's already the assistant head coach. I don't think he's the problem with our LB's.

He may not be the only problem, but he's clearly not the solution. He's been here for a long, long time and we continue to get next to nothing out of that position group.

If a coach is worth anything, he can't make excuses about talent, or lack thereof, for his entire career. At some point, you have to show an ability to develop players. He has not done that.

Danno · 12-29-2014, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

He may not be the only problem, but he's clearly not the solution. He's been here for a long, long time and we continue to get next to nothing out of that position group.

If a coach is worth anything, he can't make excuses about talent, or lack thereof, for his entire career. At some point, you have to show an ability to develop players. He has not done that.

But every LB thats left here and gone elswhere hasn't played any better. Cassillas and Dunbar are playing just about the same with their new teams as they did here.

Lofton, Vilma, Hawthorne, Humber and Haralson didn't play worse when they came here.

Martez Wilson was even worse when he left here.

I think we simply suck at drafting LB's. There's really no evidence at all that suggests its coaching, but there's plenty of evidence that says we suck at picking LB's.

Of course it might help if we decided to start picking LB's before the 4th round.

|Mitch| · 12-29-2014, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Of course it might help if we decided to start picking LB's before the 4th round.

These mid round "projects" must stop! I would love to see a true beast linebacker drafted, it's almost like Payton doesn't value the defense at all.

lee909 · 12-30-2014, 04:16 AM

No really a surprise we suck at LB.
Last 5 LBs drafted in round 1/2 by the Saints
Courtney Watson
Mark Fields
Reggie Freeman
Alvin Toles
Rickey Jackson 1981

Five picks in the first two rounds in 34 years.

4everSaint · 12-30-2014, 06:04 PM

Change is a good thing.

NonieT · 12-30-2014, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

But every LB thats left here and gone elswhere hasn't played any better. Cassillas and Dunbar are playing just about the same with their new teams as they did here.

Lofton, Vilma, Hawthorne, Humber and Haralson didn't play worse when they came here.

Martez Wilson was even worse when he left here.

I think we simply suck at drafting LB's. There's really no evidence at all that suggests its coaching, but there's plenty of evidence that says we suck at picking LB's.

Of course it might help if we decided to start picking LB's before the 4th round.

Martez Wilson was picked in the 3rd round.

Danno · 12-30-2014, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by NonieT

Martez Wilson was picked in the 3rd round.

Well thank you Mr. Helper.

NonieT · 12-30-2014, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Well thank you Mr. Helper.

It's Miss Helper and I just thought I'd point that out.

Danno · 01-02-2015, 08:22 PM

brees84 · 01-02-2015, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

https://twitter.com/LarryHolder/stat...94369139544064

Great news for NFC south WRs.

12-29-2014, 04:58 PM	#31
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,905 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Wesley Mcgriff to join Vandy as the DC Originally Posted by Danno He's already the assistant head coach. I don't think he's the problem with our LB's. He may not be the only problem, but he's clearly not the solution. He's been here for a long, long time and we continue to get next to nothing out of that position group. If a coach is worth anything, he can't make excuses about talent, or lack thereof, for his entire career. At some point, you have to show an ability to develop players. He has not done that. halloween 65 likes this.

12-29-2014, 06:13 PM	#32
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: Wesley Mcgriff to join Vandy as the DC Originally Posted by burningmetal He may not be the only problem, but he's clearly not the solution. He's been here for a long, long time and we continue to get next to nothing out of that position group. If a coach is worth anything, he can't make excuses about talent, or lack thereof, for his entire career. At some point, you have to show an ability to develop players. He has not done that. But every LB thats left here and gone elswhere hasn't played any better. Cassillas and Dunbar are playing just about the same with their new teams as they did here. Lofton, Vilma, Hawthorne, Humber and Haralson didn't play worse when they came here. Martez Wilson was even worse when he left here. I think we simply suck at drafting LB's. There's really no evidence at all that suggests its coaching, but there's plenty of evidence that says we suck at picking LB's. Of course it might help if we decided to start picking LB's before the 4th round. \|Mitch\|, ChrisXVI and CharityMike like this.

12-29-2014, 06:21 PM	#33
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Wesley Mcgriff to join Vandy as the DC Originally Posted by Danno Of course it might help if we decided to start picking LB's before the 4th round. These mid round "projects" must stop! I would love to see a true beast linebacker drafted, it's almost like Payton doesn't value the defense at all.

12-30-2014, 04:16 AM	#34
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,716 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Wesley Mcgriff to join Vandy as the DC No really a surprise we suck at LB. Last 5 LBs drafted in round 1/2 by the Saints Courtney Watson Mark Fields Reggie Freeman Alvin Toles Rickey Jackson 1981 Five picks in the first two rounds in 34 years. Danno, CharityMike and K Major like this.

12-30-2014, 06:04 PM	#35
4everSaint 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Madison, MS Posts: 668	Re: Wesley Mcgriff to join Vandy as the DC Change is a good thing. K Major likes this.

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12-30-2014, 06:08 PM	#36
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Wesley Mcgriff to join Vandy as the DC Originally Posted by Danno But every LB thats left here and gone elswhere hasn't played any better. Cassillas and Dunbar are playing just about the same with their new teams as they did here. Lofton, Vilma, Hawthorne, Humber and Haralson didn't play worse when they came here. Martez Wilson was even worse when he left here. I think we simply suck at drafting LB's. There's really no evidence at all that suggests its coaching, but there's plenty of evidence that says we suck at picking LB's. Of course it might help if we decided to start picking LB's before the 4th round. Martez Wilson was picked in the 3rd round.
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12-30-2014, 06:12 PM	#37
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: Wesley Mcgriff to join Vandy as the DC Originally Posted by NonieT Martez Wilson was picked in the 3rd round. Well thank you Mr. Helper. \|Mitch\| likes this.

12-30-2014, 06:26 PM	#38
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Wesley Mcgriff to join Vandy as the DC Originally Posted by Danno Well thank you Mr. Helper. It's Miss Helper and I just thought I'd point that out.
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brees84 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,015	Re: Wesley Mcgriff to join Vandy as the DC Originally Posted by Danno https://twitter.com/LarryHolder/stat...94369139544064 Great news for NFC south WRs.
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