Wesley Mcgriff to join Vandy as the DC(Staying in N.O.)

SmashMouth · 01-02-2015, 08:45 PM

New report says DBs coach Wesley McGriff will stay with New Orleans Saints | NOLA.com

Rsanders24 · 01-03-2015, 08:14 AM

Oh well....so much for change...he probably had the most talent to work with on the defensive side of the ball and had terrible production from it...I swear if they keep him and fire Ryan The defense will never improve

hagan714 · 01-03-2015, 08:18 AM

get on CB that is a solid #2 that can cover man on man 85% of the time.

then start the evals.

that would leave the rest of the defense to deal with the middle of the field. if a monkey can do it so could this group, if not can every last one of them

not asking for top 10 out this brain trust. just top 25.

lee909 · 01-03-2015, 08:30 AM

Houston's Kareem Jackson,
Seattle's Byron Maxwell,
San Diego's Brandon Flowers,
Arizona's Antonio Cromartie
Green Bay's Tramon Williams.
49ers' starters, Perrish Cox and Chris Culliver are solid possibilities coming into their prime (not to mention 49ers backup Chris Cook).

Indianapolis' Darius Butler,
Oakland's Tarell Brown,
Cleveland's Buster Skrine,
Philadelphia's Bradley Fletcher,
New York Giants' Walter Thurmond
Pittsburgh's Brice McCain.

Chicago's Charles Tillman (if he doesn't retire),
Pittsburgh's Ike Taylor (a New Orleans native),
Detroit's Rashean Mathis,
Cincinnati's Terence Newman
Oakland's Carlos Rogers.

All listed by Mike Triplett on his ESPN mail page about CB the Saints could go after

NonieT · 01-03-2015, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

Houston's Kareem Jackson,
Seattle's Byron Maxwell,
San Diego's Brandon Flowers,
Arizona's Antonio Cromartie
Green Bay's Tramon Williams.
49ers' starters, Perrish Cox and Chris Culliver are solid possibilities coming into their prime (not to mention 49ers backup Chris Cook).

Indianapolis' Darius Butler,
Oakland's Tarell Brown,
Cleveland's Buster Skrine,
Philadelphia's Bradley Fletcher,
New York Giants' Walter Thurmond
Pittsburgh's Brice McCain.

Chicago's Charles Tillman (if he doesn't retire),
Pittsburgh's Ike Taylor (a New Orleans native),
Detroit's Rashean Mathis,
Cincinnati's Terence Newman
Oakland's Carlos Rogers.

All listed by Mike Triplett on his ESPN mail page about CB the Saints could go after

I don't see Chris Harris' name, Denver Broncos.

K Major · 01-03-2015, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

Houston's Kareem Jackson,
Seattle's Byron Maxwell,
San Diego's Brandon Flowers,
Arizona's Antonio Cromartie
Green Bay's Tramon Williams.
49ers' starters, Perrish Cox and Chris Culliver are solid possibilities coming into their prime (not to mention 49ers backup Chris Cook).

Indianapolis' Darius Butler,
Oakland's Tarell Brown,
Cleveland's Buster Skrine,
Philadelphia's Bradley Fletcher,
New York Giants' Walter Thurmond
Pittsburgh's Brice McCain.

All listed by Mike Triplett on his ESPN mail page about CB the Saints could go after

Just about all of these guys would be upgrades for us at the #2 CB position.
Bradley Fletcher is about the only guy I would stay away from. He was torched week in and week out. I wanted T Brown last year due to his physicality at the position.

K Major · 01-03-2015, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

Houston's Kareem Jackson,
Seattle's Byron Maxwell,
San Diego's Brandon Flowers,
Arizona's Antonio Cromartie
Green Bay's Tramon Williams.
49ers' starters, Perrish Cox and Chris Culliver are solid possibilities coming into their prime (not to mention 49ers backup Chris Cook).

Indianapolis' Darius Butler,
Oakland's Tarell Brown,
Cleveland's Buster Skrine,
Philadelphia's Bradley Fletcher,
New York Giants' Walter Thurmond
Pittsburgh's Brice McCain.

All listed by Mike Triplett on his ESPN mail page about CB the Saints could go after

Whomever we sign in FA at the CB position will be a key piece to our 2015 defense. Add in one more pass rusher, LB and we are back in business.

burningmetal · 01-04-2015, 12:24 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

But every LB thats left here and gone elswhere hasn't played any better. Cassillas and Dunbar are playing just about the same with their new teams as they did here.

Lofton, Vilma, Hawthorne, Humber and Haralson didn't play worse when they came here.

Martez Wilson was even worse when he left here.

I think we simply suck at drafting LB's. There's really no evidence at all that suggests its coaching, but there's plenty of evidence that says we suck at picking LB's.

Of course it might help if we decided to start picking LB's before the 4th round.

Maybe those guys would do better elsewhere if they got off to better starts. Like most things in life, when you develop bad habits it's hard to shake it. We do suck at drafting LB's (as we do with most everything lately) but you still have to find a way to develop at least a couple players over this long period of time. And by the way, I'm quite sure any decision regarding LB's through the draft or free agency, is endorsed by Vitt before it goes through. As a position coach, you have to evaluate talent, not just coach it. So either way you want to look at it, he's not very good at his job.

Foot Stomper · 01-04-2015, 08:45 AM

Can someone update the title to say (now staying in NO)??

blackangold · 01-04-2015, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

New report says DBs coach Wesley McGriff will stay with New Orleans Saints | NOLA.com

So much for sweeping changes...

Like I said, the only real change will be to people that don't matter like the TE coach ect... Let's fire all of the offensive coaching we have on the #1 offense in the NFL, but we'll keep all of the worst defensive coaches that helped us get that 32nd rating!!!!

GO PAYTON 2015!!!

01-02-2015, 08:45 PM	#41
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01-03-2015, 08:14 AM	#42
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,471	Re: Wesley Mcgriff to join Vandy as the DC Oh well....so much for change...he probably had the most talent to work with on the defensive side of the ball and had terrible production from it...I swear if they keep him and fire Ryan The defense will never improve

01-03-2015, 08:18 AM	#43
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Wesley Mcgriff to join Vandy as the DC get on CB that is a solid #2 that can cover man on man 85% of the time. then start the evals. that would leave the rest of the defense to deal with the middle of the field. if a monkey can do it so could this group, if not can every last one of them not asking for top 10 out this brain trust. just top 25.

01-03-2015, 08:30 AM	#44
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,716 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Wesley Mcgriff to join Vandy as the DC Houston's Kareem Jackson, Seattle's Byron Maxwell, San Diego's Brandon Flowers, Arizona's Antonio Cromartie Green Bay's Tramon Williams. 49ers' starters, Perrish Cox and Chris Culliver are solid possibilities coming into their prime (not to mention 49ers backup Chris Cook). Indianapolis' Darius Butler, Oakland's Tarell Brown, Cleveland's Buster Skrine, Philadelphia's Bradley Fletcher, New York Giants' Walter Thurmond Pittsburgh's Brice McCain. Chicago's Charles Tillman (if he doesn't retire), Pittsburgh's Ike Taylor (a New Orleans native), Detroit's Rashean Mathis, Cincinnati's Terence Newman Oakland's Carlos Rogers. All listed by Mike Triplett on his ESPN mail page about CB the Saints could go after
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01-03-2015, 09:18 AM	#45
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Wesley Mcgriff to join Vandy as the DC Originally Posted by lee909 Houston's Kareem Jackson, Seattle's Byron Maxwell, San Diego's Brandon Flowers, Arizona's Antonio Cromartie Green Bay's Tramon Williams. 49ers' starters, Perrish Cox and Chris Culliver are solid possibilities coming into their prime (not to mention 49ers backup Chris Cook). Indianapolis' Darius Butler, Oakland's Tarell Brown, Cleveland's Buster Skrine, Philadelphia's Bradley Fletcher, New York Giants' Walter Thurmond Pittsburgh's Brice McCain. Chicago's Charles Tillman (if he doesn't retire), Pittsburgh's Ike Taylor (a New Orleans native), Detroit's Rashean Mathis, Cincinnati's Terence Newman Oakland's Carlos Rogers. All listed by Mike Triplett on his ESPN mail page about CB the Saints could go after I don't see Chris Harris' name, Denver Broncos.
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01-03-2015, 09:45 AM	#46
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,018 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Wesley Mcgriff to join Vandy as the DC Originally Posted by lee909 Houston's Kareem Jackson, Seattle's Byron Maxwell, San Diego's Brandon Flowers, Arizona's Antonio Cromartie Green Bay's Tramon Williams. 49ers' starters, Perrish Cox and Chris Culliver are solid possibilities coming into their prime (not to mention 49ers backup Chris Cook). Indianapolis' Darius Butler, Oakland's Tarell Brown, Cleveland's Buster Skrine, Philadelphia's Bradley Fletcher, New York Giants' Walter Thurmond Pittsburgh's Brice McCain. All listed by Mike Triplett on his ESPN mail page about CB the Saints could go after Just about all of these guys would be upgrades for us at the #2 CB position. Bradley Fletcher is about the only guy I would stay away from. He was torched week in and week out. I wanted T Brown last year due to his physicality at the position.

01-03-2015, 09:59 AM	#47
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,018 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Wesley Mcgriff to join Vandy as the DC Originally Posted by lee909 Houston's Kareem Jackson, Seattle's Byron Maxwell, San Diego's Brandon Flowers, Arizona's Antonio Cromartie Green Bay's Tramon Williams. 49ers' starters, Perrish Cox and Chris Culliver are solid possibilities coming into their prime (not to mention 49ers backup Chris Cook). Indianapolis' Darius Butler, Oakland's Tarell Brown, Cleveland's Buster Skrine, Philadelphia's Bradley Fletcher, New York Giants' Walter Thurmond Pittsburgh's Brice McCain. All listed by Mike Triplett on his ESPN mail page about CB the Saints could go after Whomever we sign in FA at the CB position will be a key piece to our 2015 defense. Add in one more pass rusher, LB and we are back in business.

01-04-2015, 12:24 AM	#48
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,905 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Wesley Mcgriff to join Vandy as the DC Originally Posted by Danno But every LB thats left here and gone elswhere hasn't played any better. Cassillas and Dunbar are playing just about the same with their new teams as they did here. Lofton, Vilma, Hawthorne, Humber and Haralson didn't play worse when they came here. Martez Wilson was even worse when he left here. I think we simply suck at drafting LB's. There's really no evidence at all that suggests its coaching, but there's plenty of evidence that says we suck at picking LB's. Of course it might help if we decided to start picking LB's before the 4th round. Maybe those guys would do better elsewhere if they got off to better starts. Like most things in life, when you develop bad habits it's hard to shake it. We do suck at drafting LB's (as we do with most everything lately) but you still have to find a way to develop at least a couple players over this long period of time. And by the way, I'm quite sure any decision regarding LB's through the draft or free agency, is endorsed by Vitt before it goes through. As a position coach, you have to evaluate talent, not just coach it. So either way you want to look at it, he's not very good at his job. K Major likes this.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

01-04-2015, 08:45 AM	#49
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01-04-2015, 11:14 AM	#50
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Wesley Mcgriff to join Vandy as the DC Originally Posted by SmashMouth New report says DBs coach Wesley McGriff will stay with New Orleans Saints \| NOLA.com So much for sweeping changes... Like I said, the only real change will be to people that don't matter like the TE coach ect... Let's fire all of the offensive coaching we have on the #1 offense in the NFL, but we'll keep all of the worst defensive coaches that helped us get that 32nd rating!!!! GO PAYTON 2015!!! Rsanders24 likes this.

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