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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; rob and his defense will never win a super bowl SP and the offense will again offense first defense second top 25 defense is all we need. no reason this group could not have done it last year. coach and ...

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Old 01-09-2015, 03:27 AM   #21
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rob and his defense will never win a super bowl
SP and the offense will again

offense first defense second

top 25 defense is all we need. no reason this group could not have done it last year. coach and scheme but in no way should defense have priority.

windows closing on Drew so is our chances
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rob and his defense will never win a super bowl
SP and the offense will again

offense first defense second

top 25 defense is all we need. no reason this group could not have done it last year. coach and scheme but in no way should defense have priority.

windows closing on Drew so is our chances
I disagree that all we need is a top 25 defense. Last season we had a top 5 D and we still couldn't get it done. Both sides of the ball have to be really good or one side has to be extremely dominant. Team chemistry will go a long way too.
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I disagree that all we need is a top 25 defense. Last season we had a top 5 D and we still couldn't get it done. Both sides of the ball have to be really good or one side has to be extremely dominant. Team chemistry will go a long way too.
Plus you have to have a degree of luck on your side as well

I can't count the amount of times the ball bounced our way in 2009, even at the most unpredictable times!
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Whoever it is I hope they can tackle. Rob can't tackle himself.
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I have read all 3 parts of Fixing the Saints and could not agree more. If there is a way for you to send this on to Sean Payton Please do so.
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20th in points allowed.

25th in yards allowed.

You're right people do remember that team wrongly a lot...

Porter missed 4 games.
Greer missed 8 games.
Gay missed 6 games.

Injuries happen to every team, it's not an excuse.
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Your probably right and I would like to give credit where credit is due,but when I think back on his career here, his piss-pour tackling stands out to me.


I remember him reading plays and studying the quarterback he's facing....getting game saving interceptions at clutch moments in important games
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Plus you have to have a degree of luck on your side as well

I can't count the amount of times the ball bounced our way in 2009, even at the most unpredictable times!


You do the work the first few games then the luck comes, it happens to all the teams at that point unless you have Lindley at qb. We did not have luck the first five games we went out there and took them, then came the luck the next several weeks until week 11. We dominated weeks 11 and 12 before faltering down the stretch(but that was due to Greer being out). Another reason for a lot of the luck down the stretch was Robert Meachem mid-late 2009.

Even in 2011, we escaped Tennessee.
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You do the work the first few games then the luck comes, it happens to all the teams at that point unless you have Lindley at qb. We did not have luck the first five games we went out there and took them, then came the luck the next several weeks until week 11. We dominated weeks 11 and 12 before faltering down the stretch(but that was due to Greer being out). Another reason for a lot of the luck down the stretch was Robert Meachem mid-late 2009.

Even in 2011, we escaped Tennessee.
I'd agree but I'd still say we had quite a bit of luck during the first six games also, no matter how dominant we played

Versus the giants in week 5, both teams were 5-0

Brees threw to a double covered lance Moore on third down, the defender had his hands on the ball batted it up in the air and lance pulled it in for a first down - drew gets picked for that in 2014

Week 6 vs miami - receiver had beat tracy porter pretty easily when the ball arrived but he misjudged the catch and batted that straight to Darren Sharper who ran it back for a TD

Yeah I remember that 2011 titans game - one of the few games that Jo-lonn Dunbar sealed for us with a game ending play.

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I disagree that all we need is a top 25 defense. Last season we had a top 5 D and we still couldn't get it done. Both sides of the ball have to be really good or one side has to be extremely dominant. Team chemistry will go a long way too.
saints could have had at least 3 additional wins 10 - 6 record easy. with a top 25 defense and been in every game during the season.

so it would work and keep the lofty goals of Robs back
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saints could have had at least 3 additional wins 10 - 6 record easy. with a top 25 defense and been in every game during the season.

so it would work and keep the lofty goals of Robs back
Even if we had a top 25 D,we still had a good-not great- offense that was turnover happy which basically proves my point. I think Green Bay had a last place defense when they won the SB,but their offense was dominant. Even if we would have had a 10-6 record, it wouldn't matter....this team was in no shape to do anything in the playoffs.
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