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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Draft grades should be reserved for 3 years. Typical development/impact curve for new players. The fact that Fortt and Rooks didn't even make the team is bad. That our 2nd round pick was kept hidden from ...

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Old 02-13-2015, 04:30 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 View Post
Draft grades should be reserved for 3 years. Typical development/impact curve for new players.

The fact that Fortt and Rooks didn't even make the team is bad. That our 2nd round pick was kept hidden from sight is worse.

Was it the talent scouts? Coaches? Players? We'll find out.

And WTF is mamma's google???
It is in reference to a mother who can't see their child imperfections due to having so much love for that child. Hope the links can better answer your question

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I can't see how you can grade someone if they didn't get on the field or seen hardly any playing time. Except for a D or F.
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It is in reference to a mother who can't see their child imperfections due to having so much love for that child. Hope the links can better answer your question

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You did say "goggle". I read "google"... my mistake.

Maybe "beer goggles" is more appropriate for this group.

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grading anything after round 3 is an "I" in my book unless they are cut that year. 3 years then grade those guys
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 View Post
You did say "goggle". I read "google"... my mistake.

Maybe "beer goggles" is more appropriate for this group.

You gained some major points in admiration to own up a mistake, so I will too cause Cooks could turn out to be a faster and less injury prone Wes walker, Baptiste might turn out to be a better version of Richard Sherman with less mouth and the other draft picks that were let go might turn out to be another Rob ninkovich in 3 years however the sign don't look in those favor the 1st year
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Has to be the worst draft in the Payton Era for sure....
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I think F is putting it gently.

I'm glad we shook up the scouting department because it was deserved.
Guess the end of times is upon us because I'd have to agree with that statement in part...

However, I think it's important to differentiate between the scouting department accumlating a healthy dBase of players, and...

The appraisal, rating of said players, and...

The decision process, specifically draft management/selection process...

I'd like to know how draft management responsibilities are weighted, assigned amongst the staff...

That's where the harshest criticism, accountability should be addressed...

Because to be fair, we've done exceptionally well with Undrafted Rookie Free Agents since Payton took over...

So to me, the problem is draft management, player valuation not inability to locate talent...

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F works for me but this year's draft looks like its about to be another F*** up by the scouts, maybe that's why Ireland was brought on board because this team hasn't drafted worth a damn since 2006
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One player was productive...........that alone is worth a C+ but no higher grade than that.
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Has to be the worst draft in the Payton Era for sure....
I'm not so sure...

2010 NFL Draft

1(32) Patrick Robinson CB
2(64) Charles Brown OT
3(95) Jimmy Graham TE
4(25) Al Woods DT
5(27) Matt Tennant
6(32) Traded to the Arizona Cardinals
7(32) Sean Canfield QB

or when you look at the investment, return of

2011 NFL Draft
1(24) Cameron Jordan DE
1 (28) Mark Ingram RB (Traded the 2011 Round 2 (56) pick and 2012 Round 1 Pick)
3 (72) Martez Wilson LB (Traded All-Pro OT Jammal Brown AND 2011 R5 (155) for selection of Wilson and a conditional 2012 R6 (Andrew Tiller) which was swapped with Miami in the Reggie Bush Trade)
3 (88) Johnny Patrick CB
7 (226) Greg Romeus DE
7 (243) Nate Bussey LB

The 2011 Draft for me stings the most because we basically traded down, traded away quality for scheiße, and really passed on better quality and better need...

Now there's been enough time passed to judge the draft management of the 2011 NFL draft...

Which I feel was a complete disaster and as having set the Saints back...

Hindsight is not fare, but sure as hell has more clarity...

And it's clear draft management is one of our biggest handicaps...
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