No Renegotiation for Brees

hagan714 · 02-20-2015, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

If the team was going to trade Brees you may aswell blow everything up and dump Evans,Hawthorne,Bunkley,Lofton,Grubbs,Colston and others this year too.

lets see blow it up? tank the year and stock pile picks to go after conner cook in 2016? ok

Lofton, Evens and Colston are to simple to redo to just cut them loss

Danno · 02-20-2015, 09:09 AM

We aren't blowing up squat. We have more talent on this team than any in Saints history. We have a Superbowl QB with 2 or 3 more solid years left in the tank, and we're likely a top 3 NFC contender as is.

As long as Brees is still playing, we swing for the fences.

lee909 · 02-20-2015, 09:18 AM

Im with Danno
I understand getting value for Brees while you can but if you get rid of him you get rid of everyone and eat the cap hits at once.

With the ownership issues up in the air this team will be swinging for the going for broke now.

Im not sure that once Brees hangs up the cleats we are not looking for a new Coach and GM too

ChrisXVI · 02-20-2015, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

Im not sure that once Brees hangs up the cleats we are not looking for a new Coach and GM too

I guarantee you Sean Payton is leaving when Drew retires/goes elsewhere.

AsylumGuido · 02-20-2015, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I guarantee you Sean Payton is leaving when Drew retires/goes elsewhere.

This is very likely.

AsylumGuido · 02-20-2015, 10:29 AM

I am going to repeat something that I have stated many times ...

... any kind of restructuring of a contract for cap purposes will always, ALWAYS, ALWAYS favor the player.

Given the expected cap growth over the next two years (no less than $143M 2015 and likely well over $150M in 2016) there is no reason to restructure Brees' contract, especially at this time. Loomis isn't stupid. It makes no sense to do a restructure unless that was the last resort. That isn't the case this year. You don't do restructures just for the sake of doing them. We need to try to stop trying to read anything more into it than that. Brees isn't going anywhere anytime soon. I expect at least a new contract following the 2016 season with a chance for an extension following this coming season.

RaginCajun83 · 02-20-2015, 12:57 PM

This sounds like a reloading of talent year for the Saints to then have one last championship run before Drew retires, hope I'm wrong but I wouldn't be surprised its another 7-9, 8-8 season. Now if Payton somehow recovers his balls then all bets are off

dizzle88 · 02-20-2015, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83

This sounds like a reloading of talent year for the Saints to then have one last championship run before Drew retires, hope I'm wrong but I wouldn't be surprised its another 7-9, 8-8 season. Now if Payton somehow recovers his balls then all bets are off

Maybe his ex wife got them in the pre-nup agreement.

voodooido · 02-20-2015, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I guarantee you Sean Payton is leaving when Drew retires/goes elsewhere.

If they don't draft or pick up a qb for the future this year I am jumping on your bandwagon.

WillSaints81 · 02-20-2015, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83

This sounds like a reloading of talent year for the Saints to then have one last championship run before Drew retires, hope I'm wrong but I wouldn't be surprised its another 7-9, 8-8 season. Now if Payton somehow recovers his balls then all bets are off

That means all the naysayers are right they we won't contend and will have to watch Atlanta threaten to go to another sb. Its gonna hurt really hard on here if they get a ring.

02-20-2015, 09:04 AM	#11
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: No Renegotiation for Brees Originally Posted by lee909 If the team was going to trade Brees you may aswell blow everything up and dump Evans,Hawthorne,Bunkley,Lofton,Grubbs,Colston and others this year too. lets see blow it up? tank the year and stock pile picks to go after conner cook in 2016? ok Lofton, Evens and Colston are to simple to redo to just cut them loss

02-20-2015, 09:09 AM	#12
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: No Renegotiation for Brees We aren't blowing up squat. We have more talent on this team than any in Saints history. We have a Superbowl QB with 2 or 3 more solid years left in the tank, and we're likely a top 3 NFC contender as is. As long as Brees is still playing, we swing for the fences. saintfan, jnormand, SaintFanQ and 3 others like this.

02-20-2015, 09:18 AM	#13
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,716 Blog Entries: 1	Re: No Renegotiation for Brees Im with Danno I understand getting value for Brees while you can but if you get rid of him you get rid of everyone and eat the cap hits at once. With the ownership issues up in the air this team will be swinging for the going for broke now. Im not sure that once Brees hangs up the cleats we are not looking for a new Coach and GM too

02-20-2015, 10:15 AM	#14
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: No Renegotiation for Brees Originally Posted by lee909 Im not sure that once Brees hangs up the cleats we are not looking for a new Coach and GM too I guarantee you Sean Payton is leaving when Drew retires/goes elsewhere.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,391	Re: No Renegotiation for Brees Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I guarantee you Sean Payton is leaving when Drew retires/goes elsewhere. This is very likely.

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02-20-2015, 10:29 AM	#16
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,391	Re: No Renegotiation for Brees I am going to repeat something that I have stated many times ... ... any kind of restructuring of a contract for cap purposes will always, ALWAYS, ALWAYS favor the player. Given the expected cap growth over the next two years (no less than $143M 2015 and likely well over $150M in 2016) there is no reason to restructure Brees' contract, especially at this time. Loomis isn't stupid. It makes no sense to do a restructure unless that was the last resort. That isn't the case this year. You don't do restructures just for the sake of doing them. We need to try to stop trying to read anything more into it than that. Brees isn't going anywhere anytime soon. I expect at least a new contract following the 2016 season with a chance for an extension following this coming season. Danno and RaginCajun83 like this.

02-20-2015, 12:57 PM	#17
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: No Renegotiation for Brees This sounds like a reloading of talent year for the Saints to then have one last championship run before Drew retires, hope I'm wrong but I wouldn't be surprised its another 7-9, 8-8 season. Now if Payton somehow recovers his balls then all bets are off

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,838	Re: No Renegotiation for Brees Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 This sounds like a reloading of talent year for the Saints to then have one last championship run before Drew retires, hope I'm wrong but I wouldn't be surprised its another 7-9, 8-8 season. Now if Payton somehow recovers his balls then all bets are off Maybe his ex wife got them in the pre-nup agreement. RaginCajun83 likes this.

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voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,739	Re: No Renegotiation for Brees Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I guarantee you Sean Payton is leaving when Drew retires/goes elsewhere. If they don't draft or pick up a qb for the future this year I am jumping on your bandwagon. MarchingOn likes this.
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WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: No Renegotiation for Brees Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 This sounds like a reloading of talent year for the Saints to then have one last championship run before Drew retires, hope I'm wrong but I wouldn't be surprised its another 7-9, 8-8 season. Now if Payton somehow recovers his balls then all bets are off That means all the naysayers are right they we won't contend and will have to watch Atlanta threaten to go to another sb. Its gonna hurt really hard on here if they get a ring.

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