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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2015 OFFENSE QB (3) Drew Brees , Ryan Griffin, Luke McCown, Garrett Grayson (R3, #75) RB (4) Mark Ingram , C.J. Spiller (FA) , Khiry Robinson, Tim Hightower (FA) , Marcus Murphy (R7, #230) , Edwin ...

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Old 08-07-2015, 04:43 AM   #201
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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2015


OFFENSE

QB (3) Drew Brees, Ryan Griffin, Luke McCown, Garrett Grayson (R3, #75)

RB (4) Mark Ingram, C.J. Spiller (FA), Khiry Robinson, Tim Hightower (FA), Marcus Murphy (R7, #230), Edwin Baker (FA)

FB (1) Austin Johnson, Erik Lorig

WR (3) Marques Colston, Nick Toon, Brandon Coleman, Kyle Prater (URFA), Joe Morgan, Josh Morgan (FA), Lance Lewis (FA)

LT (2) Terron Armstead, Bryce Harris, Sean Hickey (URFA)

LG (1) Tim Lelito, Senio Kelemete, Cole Manhart (URFA)

C (1) Max Unger (via Trade), Mike Golic (FA)

RG (2) Jahri Evans, Mike McGlynn (FA), Cyril Lemon (URFA)

RT (2) Zach Strief, Andrus Peat (R1, #13), Nick Becton, Antonio Johnson (URFA)

TE (3) Benjamin Watson, Josh Hill, Kevin Brock (FA), Orson Charles, Alex Smith

WR (3) Brandin Cooks, Seantavius Jones, Willie Snead (URFA), Jalen Saunders, R.J. Harris (URFA)


DEFENSE

DE (2) Akiem Hicks, Tyeler Davison (R5, #154), Kaleb Eulls (URFA)

NT (2) John Jenkins, Lawrence Virgil, Ashaad Mabry (URFA)

DT (2) Kevin Williams (FA), Bobby Richardson (URFA), Tavaris Barnes (URFA)

LEO (3) Cameron Jordan, Kasim Edebali, Ronald Powell, Davis Tull (R5, #148)

WILL (2) Dannell Ellerbe (via Trade), Ramon Humber, Henry Coley (URFA)

MIKE (2) Stephone Anthony (R1, #31)], David Hawthorne, Jerry Franklin (FA)

SAM (2) Anthony Spencer (FA), Hau'oli Kikaha (R2, #44), Parys Haralson, Markus Pierce-Brewster (URFA)

CB (2) Brandon Browner (FA), Delvin Breaux (FA), Kyle Wilson (FA), Terrence Frederick, A.J. Davis

FS (3) Jairus Byrd, Rafael Bush, Kenny Phillips (FA), Pierre Warren

SS (2) Kenny Vaccaro, Vinnie Sunseri, Jamarca Sanford

CB (3) Keenan Lewis, Stanley Jean-Baptiste, P.J. Williams (R3, #78), Damian Swann (R5, #167), Brian Dixon, Travis Manning (URFA)


KICKING

K (1) Dustin Hopkins (URFA), Zach Hocker (URFA)

P (1) Thomas Morstead

LS (1) Justin Drescher, Chris Highland (URFA)

KR C.J. Spiller, Jalen Saunders, Marcus Murphy (R7, #230)

PR Jalen Saunders, C.J. Spiller, Marcus Murphy (R7, #230)

H Thomas Morstead

KO Thomas Morstead

New Saints

New Saints Rookies

Injured or Physically Unable to Perform

Non-Football Injury

Injured Reserve

WR Andy Tanner

WR Malcome Kennedy

OL Mike Brewster

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Old 08-07-2015, 05:12 AM   #202
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Has anyone heard an update about the injury to CB P. J. Williams?!?

There were comments at NOLA.com on the casualty page indicating his injury may affect his rookie season...

They did sign another cornerback so someone is out indefinitely...
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Da*n, we must beat the **** out of our cornerbacks in training camp, practice...

Now I see why the Saints Coaching Staff places such a premium on having plenty of defensive backs...
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never can have enough CB
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Apparently not; may very well end up with six (6) cornerbacks on the roster...
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New Orleans Saints mailbag: A look at some tough roster decisions

By Evan Woodbery, NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune
August 08, 2015 at 12:42 PM, updated August 08, 2015 at 1:55 PM

WHITE SULPHUR SPRINGS, W. Va. -- We opened up the New Orleans Saints Twitter mailbag on Saturday to field some questions about training camp...


(On DC Rob Ryan)

There's no doubt that Rob Ryan is an precarious position. If the defense gets better, new senior defensive assistant Dennis Allen will get credit. If it doesn't improve, Ryan will get the blame (and, almost certainly, get fired).

Head coach Sean Payton was extremely critical of the substitution problems both during the scrimmage and in the post-game press conference. That sort of public criticism from the head coach is not a good sign for Ryan...



(On MLB Stephone Anthony, SLB Hau'oli Kikaha)

I've been very impressed with Anthony. He passes the "look test" because he's displaying confidence and intelligence and doesn't look like a rookie out there. Obviously the real test will be in games, but I think the Saints have to be pleased with that pick.

I like Kikaha as a strong-side linebacker, but he'll have to work on the non-pass-rushing aspects of his game...



(On Evans, Lelito, Kelemete)

While I've always seen Kelemete as a dark-horse candidate to fight Lelito for Ben Grubbs' old job, the Saints have spent most of the summer and training camp working him at center. That's good for Kelemete's long-term future (with the Saints and elsewhere) but it won't help him mount a push for a starting guard job.

I'm not sure that I'd say Lelito and Evans are struggling on the basis of a handful of one-on-one pass-rush drills...



(On Running Backs)

I agree that Mark Ingram, C.J. Spiller and Khiry Robinson will make the team. As of now, I like Tim Hightower as the fourth running back. Rookie Marcus Murphy is also an option, and he can strengthen his hand if he also wins the punt return job. The Saints also like Edwin Baker, although it would probably take an injury for him to crack the roster.

As of today, I'd put Hightower on the roster and stick Murphy on the practice squad as a possible "call-up" later in the season...



(On Stanley Jean-Baptiste Being Cut After Year Two, Remaining DBs)

Yes, the Saints certainly could, although I think Stanley Jean-Baptiste will make the team...(based) on how he's being used...

The wild cards are the two rookie cornerbacks, P.J. Williams and Damian Swann. We've seen very little of both. Swann has watched from the sidelines since first leaving practice, while we haven't spotted Williams in a while ... don't think Jean-Baptiste, Williams and Swann can all make the team. But if one of the trio gets hurt, that will solve the roster crunch.

The safeties are in a similar situation. Among Kenny Phillips, Pierre Warren and Jamarca Sanford, I think there is room for only one. Right now, I'm giving a slight edge to Phillips. Like Hightower, Phillips will have to prove his durability in preseason games.


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Source: New Orleans Saints mailbag: A look at some tough roster decisions | NOLA.com

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OFFENSE
POSITIONFIRST TEAMSECONDTHIRD
Wide ReceiverBrandin CooksBrandon ColemanWillie Snead
Lance LewisKyle Prater
Left TackleTerron ArmsteadBryce HarrisNick Becton
Left GuardTim LelitoMike McGlynnCyril Lemon
CenterMax UngerSenio KelemeteMike Golic Jr.
Right GuardJahri EvansSean HickeyCole Manhart
Right TackleZach StriefAndrus PeatAntonio Johnson
Wide ReceiverMarques ColstonNick ToonSeantavius Jones
Joe MorganJosh Morgan
Tight EndBen WatsonJosh HillOrson Charles
Kevin BrockAlex Smith
QuarterbackDrew BreesLuke McCownRyan Griffin
Garrett Grayson
FullbackAustin JohnsonErik LorigToben Opurum
Running BackMark IngramKhiry RobinsonC.J. Spiller
Tim HightowerEdwin Baker
Marcus Murphy

DEFENSE
POSITIONFIRST TEAMSECONDTHIRD
Left Defensive EndAkiem HicksBobby RichardsonTravaris Barnes
Left Defensive TackleJohn JenkinsAshaad MabryLawrence Virgil
Right Defensive TackleKevin WilliamsTyeler DavisonKaleb Eulls
Right Defensive EndCam JordanParys Haralson/Anthony SpencerMarcus Pierce-Brewster
Weakside LinebackerDannell EllerbeRamon HumberHenry Coley
Middle LinebackerDavid HawthorneStephone AnthonyJerry Franklin
Strongside LinebackerHau'oli KikahaKasim EdebaliRonald Powell
Davis Tull
CornerbackKeenan LewisStanley Jean-BaptisteBrian Dixon
Kyle WilsonP.J. Williams
Strong SafetyKenny VaccaroVinnie SunseriJamarca Sanford
Free SafetyJairus ByrdRafael BushKenny Phillips
Pierre Warren
CornerbackBrandon BrownerDelvin BreauxTerrence Frederick
Damian SwannTravis Manning

SPECIAL TEAMS
POSITIONFIRST TEAMSECONDTHIRD
PunterThomas Morstead
KickerZach Hocker/Dustin Hopkins
Long SnapperJustin DrescherChris Highland
HolderLuke McCown
Punt ReturnerC.J. SpillerBrandin CooksJalen Saunders
Marcus Murphy
Kickoff ReturnerC.J. SpillerBrandin CooksJalen Saunders
Marcus Murphy
KickoffThomas MorsteadZach Hocker/Dustin Hopkins 


Source: New Orleans Saints listed as 4-3 defense, rookie LB Hau'oli Kikaha starting in first unofficial depth chart | NOLA.com

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New Orleans Saints 53-man roster projection: Stanley Jean-Baptiste solidifying a spot

By Larry Holder, NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune
on August 06, 2015 at 9:35 AM, updated August 06, 2015 at 10:44 AM

Latest Saints 53-man roster projection
Quarterback (3) In: Drew Brees, Luke McCown, Garrett Grayson
Out: Ryan Griffin

Analysis: Griffin has been working with the second-team offense a little more lately than in the first couple of days of camp. He will have to definitively win the job to beat out McCown.


Running back (5)
In: Mark Ingram, C.J. Spiller, Khiry Robinson, Marcus Murphy, Austin Johnson
Out: Tim Hightower, Edwin Baker, Toben Opurum, Erik Lorig

Analysis: I really want to find a way to keep Hightower. He's been sprinkled in for snaps throughout every level of the offense anywhere from the ones to the threes to receive a healthy dose of reps. Johnson appears to be with the first team more than Lorig so I'm making the switch at fullback.


Wide receiver (6)
In: Brandin Cooks, Marques Colston, Nick Toon, Brandon Coleman, Seantavius Jones, Jalen Saunders
Out: Josh Morgan, Joe Morgan, R.J. Harris, Lance Lewis, Kyle Prater, Willie Snead

Analysis: I don't quite have the courage to switch out Josh Morgan for Toon quite yet. But I can see that happening soon. To me, Toon really hasn't stood out all too much in camp like normal. Saunders will always be a wild card in the group if he can with a return job. I'm liking Snead for the practice squad among this group.


Tight end (3)
In: Josh Hill, Benjamin Watson, Orson Charles
Out: Kevin Brock, Jack Tabb

Analysis: Hill and Watson are obvious. The rest of this group is a challenge to gauge. Brock looked solid before his injury sidelined him the last few days. Tabb took more snaps with the ones than Charles with Hill out with an injury. Then, Tabb was carted off the field with a knee injury Thursday. The Saints will need to add some healthy body or bodies soon.


Offensive linemen (8)
In: Jahri Evans, Tim Lelito, Max Unger, Terron Armstead, Zach Strief, Andrus Peat, Senio Kelemete, Sean Hickey
Out: Bryce Harris, Mike Golic Jr, Mike McGlynn, Cyril Lemon, Antonio Johnson, Nick Becton, Cole Manhart

Analysis: Maybe the Saints keep nine offensive linemen, but that's not typically how they operate. Peat would be the backup at tackle, but Harris and Becton sat on the 53-man roster for a while last year. This means the Saints might keep a second backup tackle. Kelemete is working at center to be a swing guy and Hickey has been working at guard to be a swing guy at guard and tackle.


Defensive linemen (8)
In: Cam Jordan, Akiem Hicks, Kevin Williams, John Jenkins, Kasim Edebali, Lawrence Virgil, Tyeler Davison, Bobby Richardson
Out: Ashaad Mabry, Kaleb Eulls, Tavaris Barnes, Glenn Foster

Analysis: No movement on the defensive front. In fact, Richardson has gained ground more than anything else through one week. He's created pressure at defensive end and defensive tackle in individual and team drills.

Linebacker (8)
In: Stephone Anthony, David Hawthorne, Ronald Powell, Hau'oli Kikaha, Davis Tull, Ramon Humber, Dannell Ellerbe, Parys Haralson
Out: Henry Coley, Jerry Franklin, Anthony Spencer, Marcus Pierce-Brewster

Analysis: Spencer hasn't practiced in a while, and neither has Ellerbe. Both have to be on the bubble. I'm leaving Ellerbe on the roster for now, but the Saints have to be leaning toward Hawthorne at the Will and Anthony staying in the middle. Tull will eventually go on injured reserve, but he has to count toward the 53-man roster right now.


Secondary (9)
In: Keenan Lewis, Brandon Browner, Delvin "Chip" Breaux, Stanley Jean-Baptiste, Damian Swann, Jairus Byrd, Kenny Vaccaro, Rafael Bush, Vinnie Sunseri
Out: Kyle Wilson, P.J. Williams, Terrence Frederick, Brian Dixon, Kenny Phillips, Jamarca Sanford, Pierre Warren

Analysis: Adding Jean-Baptiste to the 53-man roster marks the most significant change to this projection. Confidence has grown in him within the coaching staff. He's been playing with the ones more than any other reserve cornerback, and soundly with the twos when Lewis and Browner play. That means I booted a rookie, and it's Williams for now. Phillips has been receiving first-team reps rotating with Bush and being the third safety in that package with Byrd nowhere to be found.


Specialist (3)
In: Thomas Morstead, Justin Drescher, Dustin Hopkins
Out: Zach Hocker, Chris Highland

Analysis: Last week I wrote this: "The Hopkins-Hocker battle is completely up in the air." It's clear Hopkins is the favorite after one week of training camp. Very clear.

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Ellerbe practiced with the ones today. Well, at least it's a start .
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Old 08-11-2015, 06:32 PM   #210
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Sean Payton recalls Pierre Thomas' rookie preseason, says four games are 'perfect' | NOLA.com

Camp is camp...

I think guys that are getting more snaps like Jean-Baptiste running with the second team more than others are because they're already on the bubble of making the team...
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