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Old 03-08-2015, 11:31 AM   #11
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Re: Jeff Ireland's latest results in Miami

Yeah, we're all confusing Ireland the GM with Ireland the Scout.

He became a GM because he excelled as a scout.
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Originally Posted by Danno View Post
Yeah, we're all confusing Ireland the GM with Ireland the Scout.

He became a GM because he excelled as a scout.
Let's just hope he excels in New Orleans. Lord knows we need all the help we can get.
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Old 03-08-2015, 01:06 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 View Post
The difference is he wasn't in charge of scouting for Miami, he was their GM and we already have ours so he has no say in contracts.

In Dallas he was in charge of scouting and drafted players like Romo and Marion Barber who were or still are effective players.

We won't have to worry about Ireland making money issues because Loomis is dealing with that.
I clearly remember reading Ireland's recent quotes about "being vocal" regarding his thoughts on scouting talent with Sean and Mickey.

I'm holding off on judgement.
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People always neglect the full story when it comes to that Dez Bryant thing. Ireland asked Dez what his father did for a living and Dez said he was a pimp. Then when asked what his mother did he said she worked for his dad. Ireland wanted to clarify that so he asked if that meant Dez's mom was a prostitute. It really wasn't that big of a deal.
I did not know that. Thanks for enlightening us.
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I did not know that. Thanks for enlightening us.
It was kind of a funny story, .
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It was kind of a funny story, .
Well, it is now.............
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Re: Jeff Ireland's latest results in Miami

it is a group effort when they add players. some times you win and get your guy other times you do not.

the blame should be shared more than these reporters like to do. very few players are one mans guy.
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Re: Jeff Ireland's latest results in Miami

He won't be the GM here, his job is to find defensive talent to draft
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Re: Jeff Ireland's latest results in Miami

Wheeler has been a great linebacker for them as was Ellerbe...

The current regime in Miami is about to pay SUH quarterback money (16+ mil per year)...

Actually, those were pretty good signings and Miami has made noise the past two seasons while they developed a very young quarterback...

Yeah, Ireland is brash and bold and many people didn't like it when he asked Dez Bryant about his mother's vocation...

Now whether you like that or not, it indicated there were some problems there early on about Bryant and he was right...

He's gonna dig and I think we'll be better with him there, maybe if we'd had him this past year's draft wouldn't have been an unmitigated disaster...

He was more the victim of injuries and questionalble coaching...

The only signing I'd say didn't work in Miami was Mike Wallace and that kid just wanted to continue to run streaks down the field as he had done in Pittsburgh and didn't develop...

That's as much of coaching and player initiative as anything...

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Originally Posted by Danno View Post
Yeah, we're all confusing Ireland the GM with Ireland the Scout.

He became a GM because he's excelled as a scout.
He'd be a great GM as he's never had a Coach Payton who can now be focused on coaching on Sundays..

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 View Post
I clearly remember reading Ireland's recent quotes about "being vocal" regarding his thoughts on scouting talent with Sean and Mickey.

I'm holding off on judgement.
My friend, so let the wisdom of your light shine forth...

Well, it's not like Loomis/Payton has been stellar annually in the draft...

Point of fact, I've argued ad nauseum that the Saints are horrible when it comes to draft management...

Maybe he's the straw we need in the draft room...

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it is a group effort when they add players. some times you win and get your guy other times you do not.

the blame should be shared more than these reporters like to do. very few players are one mans guy.
It's always a team effort, people knowing their roles as Parcells wasn't a success until he let off a little in the draft room...

...sometimes getting all your guys and not having a "straw to stir the coctail" is not a good thing, we've lacked serious balance...

...last year's draft of unnecessarily giving up a third round pick when we could've stood pat and selected either State's Kelvin Benjamin who flourished even with Cam Newton chucking to him or Vandy's Jordan Matthews with the Eagle's messy QB situation still as productive...

And we'd still had a third round pick for a LINEBACKER!!!

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 View Post
He won't be the GM here, his job is to find defensive talent to draft
His job is find talent, period. Defensive Talent, Offensive Talent, Kicking Teams Talent...

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