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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Yeah, these look like the stats of a guy who plays terrible in the postseason POST-SEASON: Started 1/4 vs. Denver, 1/11 at Kansas City and 11/18 at New England…was 22-26-377, 5 TDs, 158.3 rating vs. Denver to set club playoff ...

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Old 01-20-2005, 02:37 PM   #11
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Yeah, these look like the stats of a guy who plays terrible in the postseason

POST-SEASON: Started 1/4 vs. Denver, 1/11 at Kansas City and 11/18 at New England…was 22-26-377, 5 TDs, 158.3 rating vs. Denver to set club playoff mark for most single-game scoring passes…teamed with Stokley (4-144, 2 TDs; 31t, 87t) and Harrison (7-133, 2 TDs; 46t, 23t) on TD tosses…87t play set Colts playoff record for longest completion (75t, Unitas-to-John Mackey, Super Bowl V was prior longest play)…had 3rd 5+-TD game of season (6 at New Orleans; 5 vs. Atlanta) and 4th career perfect rating, 2nd of season (at New Orleans)…joined three other NFL QBs with perfect post-season rating games (Don Meredith, Terry Bradshaw, Dave Krieg)…became only NFL player with three 5+-TD games in one season (including the playoffs)…became 11th player in NFL playoff history with four TD passes in one half…five TD passes fell one shy of NFL playoff record (Daryle Lamonica, Steve Young) and tied totals accomplished by Sid Luckman, Lamonica, Joe Montana, Kurt Warner and Kerry Collins…won NFL Offensive Player-of-the-Week honors…was 22-30-304, 3 TDs, 138.8 rating at Kansas City for 2nd consecutive 300+ yards/100+ rating game…teamed with Harrison (6-98), WR-Reggie Wayne (6-83, 1 TD; 19t), Stokley (4-57, 1 TD; 29t) and RB-Tom Lopienski (1-2, 1 TD; 2t) to guide passing attack…led club to scores on six of eight possessions, failing to score only at end of half and end of game…finished game with nine career playoff touchdown passes, besting prior club mark of Unitas (7)…became 5th player in NFL playoff history to start playoffs with eight or more TD passes without interception (11, Montana, San Francisco, 1989; 9, Young, San Francisco, 1994; 8, Troy Aikman, Dallas, 1992; 8, Phil Simms, NYG, 1986)…was 23-47-237, 1 TD/4 ints. at New England.
And that doesn\'t include the 5 tds verse Denver this year in the playoffs. Get real or find someone remotely in the realm of mockability to mock. If you don\'t think playing in the snow is a negative factor for a dome team playing against a team considered by some to be a modern day dynasty and used to playing in the elements with the Colts already poor defense, well, never mind. Forgot who I was talking to for a second. Facts don\'t matter right?

[Edited on 20/1/2005 by saintswhodi]
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Old 01-20-2005, 02:49 PM   #12
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How long did it take Elway to win a superbowl. Was he terrible until he did. Marino never won a superbowl -- does that mean he sucks. Face it -- I\'d trade AB and Deuce to get Peyton. How many years has peyton been in the league -- how many has AB been in the league.
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Old 01-20-2005, 02:56 PM   #13
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I don\'t know about trading AB AND Deuce 4saints, but I get your sentiment. Unreal. With our \"qb\" how hilarious is it for someone to be trying to belittle Peyton Manning? I would take Peyton Manning over what we have any day of the week and twice on Sunday, and the sad part about it is, so would Gumbo more than likely. IF they said, \"screw the cap, if you guys want Peyton Manning instead of Brooks, we can do it right now,\" I dare anyone criticizing him to say they wouldn\'t take Peyton and never look back. Hell, I\'d take Eli for Leon straight up.

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Old 01-20-2005, 03:49 PM   #14
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Dear Mr. Peyton Manning

If Manning and the Colts can get Home Field advantage throughout the Playoffs..You should see them in the Superbowl..He is an Awesome QB, ..Infact, He is the Best today..hands down..The cold weather just works against his kind of Offense..not only him..his whole team lacks to produce in the cold..

John Elway only made it the last two years of his career..

You WILL see Payton Manning play in a Superbowl..

Not this year..and possibly, not with the Colts..
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Old 01-20-2005, 05:48 PM   #15
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Old 01-20-2005, 05:57 PM   #16
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I know the word ya\'ll are looking for.......BORING!!!!!!!
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Old 01-20-2005, 07:05 PM   #17
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Dear Peyton,

I may not have ur arm, and yes ya\'ll D aint that great, but i have the heart of a champion(ask the Panthers and Rams) and you dont!!!!!!!!

Sincerely,

Tom Brady :eck05:
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Old 01-20-2005, 08:03 PM   #18
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I think it is interesting that the team Elway stiffed in the draft, (Colts), is the same team that Peyton is trying to take to the promised land. Maybe he should have done what Elway and his brother did and held out for a better team and give himself a better chance of making it there. Anyway, I thought we should make a list of choke artists for Gumbo. I\'ll get the ball rolling with the first three on the list, and then you guys can add names at will.

1. Dan Marino
2. Jim Kelly
3. Aaron Brooks (less playoff wins than any of the above.)
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Old 01-21-2005, 09:31 AM   #19
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Until Peyton is gone the Colts will never win anything.

And Peyton keeps proving me right EVERY year.
Hey Billy - one quick question - can you please give me a side by side comparison of something? You\'re obviously very knowledgeable and you have well thought out arguments. This entire Peyton Manning thing originally grew out of, what else, a Brooks debate. So my question is:

Can you give me a side by side comparison of AB and Manning over the last 4 years both have been full time starters?

You know, yards, TD, comp %, QB rating, WINS, PLAYOFF APPEARANCES, etc. etc. etc.

When you\'re done with that, run through you logic again why you think it\'s OK to say the Colts WON\'T win with Peyton, but the Saints CAN or WILL with Brooks. Can you do that?

Bets on whether he even attempts it? Anyone? LOL

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Old 01-21-2005, 10:04 AM   #20
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Since \"facts\" are unnecessary when Mr. Gumbo presents his argument, I doubt there will be any response. No need for bets. Not to knock him, but I have found that Gumbo relies more on his own \"observations,\" albeit biased \"observations,\" and throws any and all relevant facts to the contrary out the window. The purpose to it is to elicit exactly what he has gotten, responses to the contrary. I am often the first to get caught in the spider web but never the last and usually we all end up agreeing anyway that the original idea Gumbo has presented is extremely flawed and contradictory to previous arguments he has made, as in this case as well.

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