Dear Mr. Peyton Manning

saintswhodi · 01-20-2005, 01:37 PM

Yeah, these look like the stats of a guy who plays terrible in the postseason

POST-SEASON: Started 1/4 vs. Denver, 1/11 at Kansas City and 11/18 at New EnglandÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¦was 22-26-377, 5 TDs, 158.3 rating vs. Denver to set club playoff mark for most single-game scoring passesÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¦teamed with Stokley (4-144, 2 TDs; 31t, 87t) and Harrison (7-133, 2 TDs; 46t, 23t) on TD tossesÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¦87t play set Colts playoff record for longest completion (75t, Unitas-to-John Mackey, Super Bowl V was prior longest play)ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¦had 3rd 5+-TD game of season (6 at New Orleans; 5 vs. Atlanta) and 4th career perfect rating, 2nd of season (at New Orleans)ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¦joined three other NFL QBs with perfect post-season rating games (Don Meredith, Terry Bradshaw, Dave Krieg)ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¦became only NFL player with three 5+-TD games in one season (including the playoffs)ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¦became 11th player in NFL playoff history with four TD passes in one halfÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¦five TD passes fell one shy of NFL playoff record (Daryle Lamonica, Steve Young) and tied totals accomplished by Sid Luckman, Lamonica, Joe Montana, Kurt Warner and Kerry CollinsÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¦won NFL Offensive Player-of-the-Week honorsÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¦was 22-30-304, 3 TDs, 138.8 rating at Kansas City for 2nd consecutive 300+ yards/100+ rating gameÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¦teamed with Harrison (6-98), WR-Reggie Wayne (6-83, 1 TD; 19t), Stokley (4-57, 1 TD; 29t) and RB-Tom Lopienski (1-2, 1 TD; 2t) to guide passing attackÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¦led club to scores on six of eight possessions, failing to score only at end of half and end of gameÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¦finished game with nine career playoff touchdown passes, besting prior club mark of Unitas (7)ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¦became 5th player in NFL playoff history to start playoffs with eight or more TD passes without interception (11, Montana, San Francisco, 1989; 9, Young, San Francisco, 1994; 8, Troy Aikman, Dallas, 1992; 8, Phil Simms, NYG, 1986)ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¦was 23-47-237, 1 TD/4 ints. at New England.

And that doesn\'t include the 5 tds verse Denver this year in the playoffs. Get real or find someone remotely in the realm of mockability to mock. If you don\'t think playing in the snow is a negative factor for a dome team playing against a team considered by some to be a modern day dynasty and used to playing in the elements with the Colts already poor defense, well, never mind. Forgot who I was talking to for a second. Facts don\'t matter right?

[Edited on 20/1/2005 by saintswhodi]

4saintspirit · 01-20-2005, 01:49 PM

How long did it take Elway to win a superbowl. Was he terrible until he did. Marino never won a superbowl -- does that mean he sucks. Face it -- I\'d trade AB and Deuce to get Peyton. How many years has peyton been in the league -- how many has AB been in the league.

saintswhodi · 01-20-2005, 01:56 PM

I don\'t know about trading AB AND Deuce 4saints, but I get your sentiment. Unreal. With our \"qb\" how hilarious is it for someone to be trying to belittle Peyton Manning? I would take Peyton Manning over what we have any day of the week and twice on Sunday, and the sad part about it is, so would Gumbo more than likely. IF they said, \"screw the cap, if you guys want Peyton Manning instead of Brooks, we can do it right now,\" I dare anyone criticizing him to say they wouldn\'t take Peyton and never look back. Hell, I\'d take Eli for Leon straight up.

[Edited on 20/1/2005 by saintswhodi]

shadowdrinker · 01-20-2005, 02:49 PM

If Manning and the Colts can get Home Field advantage throughout the Playoffs..You should see them in the Superbowl..He is an Awesome QB, ..Infact, He is the Best today..hands down..The cold weather just works against his kind of Offense..not only him..his whole team lacks to produce in the cold..

John Elway only made it the last two years of his career..

You WILL see Payton Manning play in a Superbowl..

Not this year..and possibly, not with the Colts..

saintswhodi · 01-20-2005, 04:48 PM

gator, :yourock:

JOESAM2002 · 01-20-2005, 04:57 PM

I know the word ya\'ll are looking for.......BORING!!!!!!!

FireVenturi · 01-20-2005, 06:05 PM

Dear Peyton,

I may not have ur arm, and yes ya\'ll D aint that great, but i have the heart of a champion(ask the Panthers and Rams) and you dont!!!!!!!!

Sincerely,

Tom Brady :eck05:

Saint_LB · 01-20-2005, 07:03 PM

I think it is interesting that the team Elway stiffed in the draft, (Colts), is the same team that Peyton is trying to take to the promised land. Maybe he should have done what Elway and his brother did and held out for a better team and give himself a better chance of making it there. Anyway, I thought we should make a list of choke artists for Gumbo. I\'ll get the ball rolling with the first three on the list, and then you guys can add names at will.

1. Dan Marino
2. Jim Kelly
3. Aaron Brooks (less playoff wins than any of the above.)
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WhoDat · 01-21-2005, 08:31 AM

Until Peyton is gone the Colts will never win anything.

And Peyton keeps proving me right EVERY year.

Hey Billy - one quick question - can you please give me a side by side comparison of something? You\'re obviously very knowledgeable and you have well thought out arguments. This entire Peyton Manning thing originally grew out of, what else, a Brooks debate. So my question is:

Can you give me a side by side comparison of AB and Manning over the last 4 years both have been full time starters?

You know, yards, TD, comp %, QB rating, WINS, PLAYOFF APPEARANCES, etc. etc. etc.

When you\'re done with that, run through you logic again why you think it\'s OK to say the Colts WON\'T win with Peyton, but the Saints CAN or WILL with Brooks. Can you do that?

Bets on whether he even attempts it? Anyone? LOL

saintswhodi · 01-21-2005, 09:04 AM

Since \"facts\" are unnecessary when Mr. Gumbo presents his argument, I doubt there will be any response. No need for bets. Not to knock him, but I have found that Gumbo relies more on his own \"observations,\" albeit biased \"observations,\" and throws any and all relevant facts to the contrary out the window. The purpose to it is to elicit exactly what he has gotten, responses to the contrary. I am often the first to get caught in the spider web but never the last and usually we all end up agreeing anyway that the original idea Gumbo has presented is extremely flawed and contradictory to previous arguments he has made, as in this case as well.

[Edited on 21/1/2005 by saintswhodi]

01-20-2005, 01:37 PM	#11
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Dear Mr. Peyton Manning Yeah, these look like the stats of a guy who plays terrible in the postseason POST-SEASON: Started 1/4 vs. Denver, 1/11 at Kansas City and 11/18 at New EnglandÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¦was 22-26-377, 5 TDs, 158.3 rating vs. Denver to set club playoff mark for most single-game scoring passesÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¦teamed with Stokley (4-144, 2 TDs; 31t, 87t) and Harrison (7-133, 2 TDs; 46t, 23t) on TD tossesÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¦87t play set Colts playoff record for longest completion (75t, Unitas-to-John Mackey, Super Bowl V was prior longest play)ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¦had 3rd 5+-TD game of season (6 at New Orleans; 5 vs. Atlanta) and 4th career perfect rating, 2nd of season (at New Orleans)ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¦joined three other NFL QBs with perfect post-season rating games (Don Meredith, Terry Bradshaw, Dave Krieg)ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¦became only NFL player with three 5+-TD games in one season (including the playoffs)ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¦became 11th player in NFL playoff history with four TD passes in one halfÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¦five TD passes fell one shy of NFL playoff record (Daryle Lamonica, Steve Young) and tied totals accomplished by Sid Luckman, Lamonica, Joe Montana, Kurt Warner and Kerry CollinsÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¦won NFL Offensive Player-of-the-Week honorsÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¦was 22-30-304, 3 TDs, 138.8 rating at Kansas City for 2nd consecutive 300+ yards/100+ rating gameÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¦teamed with Harrison (6-98), WR-Reggie Wayne (6-83, 1 TD; 19t), Stokley (4-57, 1 TD; 29t) and RB-Tom Lopienski (1-2, 1 TD; 2t) to guide passing attackÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¦led club to scores on six of eight possessions, failing to score only at end of half and end of gameÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¦finished game with nine career playoff touchdown passes, besting prior club mark of Unitas (7)ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¦became 5th player in NFL playoff history to start playoffs with eight or more TD passes without interception (11, Montana, San Francisco, 1989; 9, Young, San Francisco, 1994; 8, Troy Aikman, Dallas, 1992; 8, Phil Simms, NYG, 1986)ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¦was 23-47-237, 1 TD/4 ints. at New England. And that doesn\'t include the 5 tds verse Denver this year in the playoffs. Get real or find someone remotely in the realm of mockability to mock. If you don\'t think playing in the snow is a negative factor for a dome team playing against a team considered by some to be a modern day dynasty and used to playing in the elements with the Colts already poor defense, well, never mind. Forgot who I was talking to for a second. Facts don\'t matter right? [Edited on 20/1/2005 by saintswhodi]

01-20-2005, 01:49 PM	#12
4saintspirit 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 690	Dear Mr. Peyton Manning How long did it take Elway to win a superbowl. Was he terrible until he did. Marino never won a superbowl -- does that mean he sucks. Face it -- I\'d trade AB and Deuce to get Peyton. How many years has peyton been in the league -- how many has AB been in the league.
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01-20-2005, 01:56 PM	#13
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Dear Mr. Peyton Manning I don\'t know about trading AB AND Deuce 4saints, but I get your sentiment. Unreal. With our \"qb\" how hilarious is it for someone to be trying to belittle Peyton Manning? I would take Peyton Manning over what we have any day of the week and twice on Sunday, and the sad part about it is, so would Gumbo more than likely. IF they said, \"screw the cap, if you guys want Peyton Manning instead of Brooks, we can do it right now,\" I dare anyone criticizing him to say they wouldn\'t take Peyton and never look back. Hell, I\'d take Eli for Leon straight up. [Edited on 20/1/2005 by saintswhodi]

01-20-2005, 02:49 PM	#14
shadowdrinker Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 517	Dear Mr. Peyton Manning If Manning and the Colts can get Home Field advantage throughout the Playoffs..You should see them in the Superbowl..He is an Awesome QB, ..Infact, He is the Best today..hands down..The cold weather just works against his kind of Offense..not only him..his whole team lacks to produce in the cold.. John Elway only made it the last two years of his career.. You WILL see Payton Manning play in a Superbowl.. Not this year..and possibly, not with the Colts..
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01-20-2005, 04:48 PM	#15
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Dear Mr. Peyton Manning gator, :yourock:

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01-20-2005, 04:57 PM	#16
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Dear Mr. Peyton Manning I know the word ya\'ll are looking for.......BORING!!!!!!!

01-20-2005, 06:05 PM	#17
FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	Dear Mr. Peyton Manning Dear Peyton, I may not have ur arm, and yes ya\'ll D aint that great, but i have the heart of a champion(ask the Panthers and Rams) and you dont!!!!!!!! Sincerely, Tom Brady :eck05:

01-20-2005, 07:03 PM	#18
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Dear Mr. Peyton Manning I think it is interesting that the team Elway stiffed in the draft, (Colts), is the same team that Peyton is trying to take to the promised land. Maybe he should have done what Elway and his brother did and held out for a better team and give himself a better chance of making it there. Anyway, I thought we should make a list of choke artists for Gumbo. I\'ll get the ball rolling with the first three on the list, and then you guys can add names at will. 1. Dan Marino 2. Jim Kelly 3. Aaron Brooks (less playoff wins than any of the above.) . . . .
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01-21-2005, 08:31 AM	#19
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Dear Mr. Peyton Manning Until Peyton is gone the Colts will never win anything. And Peyton keeps proving me right EVERY year. Hey Billy - one quick question - can you please give me a side by side comparison of something? You\'re obviously very knowledgeable and you have well thought out arguments. This entire Peyton Manning thing originally grew out of, what else, a Brooks debate. So my question is: Can you give me a side by side comparison of AB and Manning over the last 4 years both have been full time starters? You know, yards, TD, comp %, QB rating, WINS, PLAYOFF APPEARANCES, etc. etc. etc. When you\'re done with that, run through you logic again why you think it\'s OK to say the Colts WON\'T win with Peyton, but the Saints CAN or WILL with Brooks. Can you do that? Bets on whether he even attempts it? Anyone? LOL
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01-21-2005, 09:04 AM	#20
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Dear Mr. Peyton Manning Since \"facts\" are unnecessary when Mr. Gumbo presents his argument, I doubt there will be any response. No need for bets. Not to knock him, but I have found that Gumbo relies more on his own \"observations,\" albeit biased \"observations,\" and throws any and all relevant facts to the contrary out the window. The purpose to it is to elicit exactly what he has gotten, responses to the contrary. I am often the first to get caught in the spider web but never the last and usually we all end up agreeing anyway that the original idea Gumbo has presented is extremely flawed and contradictory to previous arguments he has made, as in this case as well. [Edited on 21/1/2005 by saintswhodi]