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Evolution of the black QB.

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I think that if vick doesn\'t learn to pass more accuratly--then he will start to decline in his ability to lead the falcons to victories--look at cunningham-great running quarterback-didn\'t win games.. look at warren moon and peyton manning-better quarterbacks (still ...

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Old 01-21-2005, 10:12 AM   #11
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Evolution of the black QB.

I think that if vick doesn\'t learn to pass more accuratly--then he will start to decline in his ability to lead the falcons to victories--look at cunningham-great running quarterback-didn\'t win games..

look at warren moon and peyton manning-better quarterbacks (still don\'t win games, but better qbs\') because they can pass the ball.

steve young (smart, athletic, and accurate) was a great QB, as is tom brady, and McNabb..because he got better at passing and decision making.

a good example is brett farve-rocket for an arm adn can run-doesn\'t always make the best decisions..which has cost them games.
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Old 01-21-2005, 10:27 AM   #12
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Let me explain what my point is, folks.

Point-- Is that RUNNING QBs are the FUTURE. Get it? The are the FUTURE. Not the past!!

So, we can bring up past QBs all you want. But that has NOTHING to do with what I\'m talking about.

But go ahead folks. Tell me how Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl. Or we can talk about eating granola bars. Doesn\'t make any difference to me....

Every sports evolves. Baseball, football, basketball, etc., etc..

There will always be \"pocket\" passers. There will never be a time where EVERY team has a QB who is a great runner.

However, I believe the game is evlolving to where running QBs will be at a premium. I belive there will be a MAJORITY of \"black\" running QB when compared to \"pocket\" QBs.

The complex blitzes that today\'s defenses run put a tremendous amount of pressure on a QB. If you have a QB who can\'t scramble... then, they are at a disadvantage when compared to a guy like Mike Vick or Donavan McNabb.

Of course, you still need to be a good passer.

Given the choice, I think every coach in the league wants a QB who can make something happen with his legs when all else fails. And who wouldn\'t???

You live in the past and you die in the past.

The game is changing. Now, you might not like it, but that\'s the way it is...



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Old 01-21-2005, 10:31 AM   #13
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So to clarify your point, there will be no place for \"white\" scrambling qbs in the future cause all teams will want a \"black\"scrambling qb? Or is it that \"black\"qbs are scrambling qbs while \"white\" qbs are pocket passers? Why can\'t it just be teams will look for scrambling qbs in the future and race be left out of it?
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Old 01-21-2005, 10:31 AM   #14
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I think that the popular-to be black is to be athletic and to be white is to be smart and fundamental comments are racist...and in the worst sort of way.

secondly-even though running quarterbacks may be fashionable-a smart accurate throwing quarterback will always have the upper hand.

A running quarterback who can\'t throw leaves no room to really run an offense--it becomes a \"me-first\" type scenario and the defense is also able to just stifle the run and beat you-which is what most expect to happen to atlanta.
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Old 01-21-2005, 10:53 AM   #15
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First off, lets be honest.

Blacks are better athletes!! Anyone care to argue that point??

I don\'t think you could find 53 white athletes to make up an NFL team. Not one that could compete anyway.

You get your occasional \"white\" guy like... Steve Young or John Elway who are great running QBs.

So, when I say \"black\" QBs, that\'s only because they are better athletes. Its a bigger \"pool\" to choose from.

How many \"white\" runningbacks and receivers are in the league? NOT MANY!!

Like I said, there will always be pure pocket passers in the NFL.

Its just that I believe the game is evolving more towards QBS who can run. Whether they be black or white. And blacks are the better athletes.
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Old 01-21-2005, 10:59 AM   #16
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I am black and take offense to a statement that blacks are better athletes. That\'s just not true. An athlete is an athlete is an athlete. I will just leave you at your opinion on this one.
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Old 01-21-2005, 11:11 AM   #17
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Its just that I believe the game is evolving more towards QBS who can run. Whether they be black or white. And blacks are the better athletes.
Jimmy the Greek, is that you?

As an aside, I\'m not sure what the point of this post is and how it bears on the New Orleans Saints.
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Billy, you have a PM, and I do not want an answer back!
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