GMs with the highest % of Draft picks to make 1+ Pro Bowls.

Mr.Riaton · 03-25-2015, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Pro Bowl voting just isn't a valid measuring device IMO - case and point Colston having never been voted in, but an injured Evans, in a down-year, makes the Pro Bowl simply on reputation.

Just arguing against the validity of this assessment.

Good point, but he still drafted Evans and that's what this is all about.

FinSaint · 03-25-2015, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton

Good point, but he still drafted Evans and that's what this is all about.

True, but I was just using Evans as a familiar example.

There are multiple Pro Bowl choices of the past, who should never have been selected based on their actual performances compared to their contemporaries.

Again, I'm not saying the assessment is wrong - only that the basis it's founded upon isn't valid IMO.

Mr.Riaton · 03-25-2015, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

True, but I was just using Evans as a familiar example.

There are multiple Pro Bowl choices of the past, who should never have been selected based on their actual performances compared to their contemporaries.

Again, I'm not saying the assessment is wrong - only that the basis it's founded upon isn't valid IMO.

I agree with you to a degree. All I'm saying is the players that are picked because of popularity are the vets that have been there over and over so they're kinda grandfathered in so to speak. But I don't think there's any player that at one point in time didn't deserve to be there. I think that stat about Loomis is pretty valid,because every Saint that made the pro bowl under his drafting deserved to be there at one point in time.

Rugby Saint II · 03-30-2015, 06:26 PM

Ummmmm............don't forget we suck at finding defensive talent. I sure hope that Ireland changes all that.

Danno · 03-30-2015, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Pro Bowl voting just isn't a valid measuring device IMO - case and point Colston having never been voted in, but an injured Evans, in a down-year, makes the Pro Bowl simply on reputation.

Just arguing against the validity of this assessment.

As Riaton stated, the article designates a player that has made at least one or more pro-bowls.

99% of 1st time pro-bowlers deserved it.

The reptation vote is mostly for respected vets that have been their numerous times before.

Seer1 · 03-31-2015, 10:04 PM

Yeah, but did they make the pro bowl with the team that drafted'em?

Danno · 04-01-2015, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by Seer1

Yeah, but did they make the pro bowl with the team that drafted'em?

Yes, it only includes picks drafted by Loomis.

03-25-2015, 07:33 PM	#11
Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,246	Re: GMs with the highest % of Draft picks to make 1+ Pro Bowls. Originally Posted by FinSaint Pro Bowl voting just isn't a valid measuring device IMO - case and point Colston having never been voted in, but an injured Evans, in a down-year, makes the Pro Bowl simply on reputation. Just arguing against the validity of this assessment. Good point, but he still drafted Evans and that's what this is all about.

03-25-2015, 08:38 PM	#12
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,955	Re: GMs with the highest % of Draft picks to make 1+ Pro Bowls. Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton Good point, but he still drafted Evans and that's what this is all about. True, but I was just using Evans as a familiar example. There are multiple Pro Bowl choices of the past, who should never have been selected based on their actual performances compared to their contemporaries. Again, I'm not saying the assessment is wrong - only that the basis it's founded upon isn't valid IMO.

03-25-2015, 08:59 PM	#13
Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,246	Re: GMs with the highest % of Draft picks to make 1+ Pro Bowls. Originally Posted by FinSaint True, but I was just using Evans as a familiar example. There are multiple Pro Bowl choices of the past, who should never have been selected based on their actual performances compared to their contemporaries. Again, I'm not saying the assessment is wrong - only that the basis it's founded upon isn't valid IMO. I agree with you to a degree. All I'm saying is the players that are picked because of popularity are the vets that have been there over and over so they're kinda grandfathered in so to speak. But I don't think there's any player that at one point in time didn't deserve to be there. I think that stat about Loomis is pretty valid,because every Saint that made the pro bowl under his drafting deserved to be there at one point in time. Danno likes this.

03-30-2015, 06:26 PM	#14
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,718	Re: GMs with the highest % of Draft picks to make 1+ Pro Bowls. Ummmmm............don't forget we suck at finding defensive talent. I sure hope that Ireland changes all that.

03-30-2015, 06:32 PM	#15
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: GMs with the highest % of Draft picks to make 1+ Pro Bowls. Originally Posted by FinSaint Pro Bowl voting just isn't a valid measuring device IMO - case and point Colston having never been voted in, but an injured Evans, in a down-year, makes the Pro Bowl simply on reputation. Just arguing against the validity of this assessment. As Riaton stated, the article designates a player that has made at least one or more pro-bowls. 99% of 1st time pro-bowlers deserved it. The reptation vote is mostly for respected vets that have been their numerous times before. Euphoria and dizzle88 like this.

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Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: GMs with the highest % of Draft picks to make 1+ Pro Bowls. Originally Posted by Seer1 Yeah, but did they make the pro bowl with the team that drafted'em? Yes, it only includes picks drafted by Loomis.

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