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Old 01-22-2005, 04:48 PM   #11
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right which is exactly why mcnabb runs less now then he originally did. wouldnt have anything to do with the fact that he can hurt you more with his arm then his legs. nothing to do with the fact that him running to him is a very last option. no of course not. because this such a great trend you see so many teams running out to get theese athletes.
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Old 01-22-2005, 05:13 PM   #12
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right which is exactly why mcnabb runs less now then he originally did. wouldnt have anything to do with the fact that he can hurt you more with his arm then his legs. nothing to do with the fact that him running to him is a very last option. no of course not. because this such a great trend you see so many teams running out to get theese athletes.
I need to give this up. But first...

Did I ever say an athletic QB needs to run more than he passes? NO!!

Did I say he needs to run any certain % of the time? NO!!

What I am saying is that when they need to --- THEY CAN. And they DO!!

And it keeps drives alive and it wins ball games!!

And those QBs who can\'t run, well, they better hope they can complete that pass cause that\'s the ONLY option they have.

Geeeeeeeez
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Old 01-23-2005, 07:33 AM   #13
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Mutineer - I\'m not making this about race. Please check that at the door. I\'m making it about athletes vs. students of the game. Guys who can play sports vs. guys who can play football.
Indeed. When I began my post, I basically intended to agree with you regarding QB efficiency and \"who I\'d take on my team\" any day. Looking at the stats, what I found was that Culpepper and McNabb were the only two starting QB\'s in the league who ranked in the top 5 in almost every major statistical category. I wasn\'t trying to forward an A-----, though my relatively poor job of presentation admittedly made it look like that was the case. In any event, my post wasn\'t intended to be a rebuke of yours, it was simply what I found when comparing the stat lines.

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This is an interesting truth, and one that brings me back to an argument I\'m having with some people at work. The argument is over Vick and whether or not he\'ll be able to keep playing the game at this level when he plays it the way he does (scrambling, taking lots of hits, etc.). Vick is only 6\'0 & 215 lbs. I really don\'t think he\'ll hold up for the length of that big new contract.

A case study might be (one of my all-time fav\'s) Steve McNair. At 6\'2 & 235 lbs., McNair entered the league as one of the most fearsome runners/scramblers the game had seen in quite a while. He remained an effective runner in the NFL until the injuries really started to pile up. Even then, McNair was able to salvage his career because he still had a great arm. Sadly, the punishment may have shortened (or even ended) his career, but he remains a respected QB to this day.

I\'m not so sure about Vick. Sure - he can scramble with the best of them - but like McNair proved, he won\'t be able to do that forever. At some point his arm is gonna have to get him out of a jam or two, and the verdict is still out on whether or not he\'ll be able to rise to the occasion. It\'s sad to say, but I fear Vick may go the way of Bo Jackson, a great talent whose body just couldn\'t take the punishment.

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Old 01-23-2005, 08:50 AM   #14
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Billy, get back on your meds!
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Old 01-23-2005, 09:04 AM   #15
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Billy, get back on your meds!
Not a bad idea. I think I\'ll see if I can get some of that \"medical\" marijuana. :P
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Not a bad idea. I think I\'ll see if I can get some of that \"medical\" marijuana. :P [/quote:dbae025a50]

If you do get some, please don\'t be stingy with it!!
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