Judge Says Saints Owner 'At War With Himself'

03-27-2015, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by Foot Stomper

I don't have to do your research for you. It's a message board full of opinion. If you follow the Saints everyday as I do I am surprised you don't recall this.

A 5 sec google search brings this from 2012.

Poison pill in Payton’s contract may have been a buffer against LeBlanc | ProFootballTalk

Cool link. Let's see what it says:

... why that language was in the contract in the first place. A league source tells PFT ...

Aren't we done with anonymous league sources?
Until I hear it from Sean Payton...

Foot Stomper · 03-27-2015, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

Cool link. Let's see what it says:

Aren't we done with anonymous league sources?
Until I hear it from Sean Payton...

haha...ok

Rugby Saint II · 03-27-2015, 03:31 PM

This team is a mess from top to bottom. Dang. After Benson finally came around to running the franchise with an open pocket book he became an excellent owner. Now we're in a transition period and nothing is stable.

Thank god for Sean Payton. He is going to be the driving force going into this new season and he will keep this team focused. This will undoubtedly be a locker room distraction but hopefully a small one.

Meanwhile, how the hell does a judge from a city with ties to moving the Saints get to be in charge? Didn't this guy used to be San Atonio mayor or something like that?

spkb25 · 03-27-2015, 03:49 PM

This empire was built by Tom Benson, and I am talking about his financial empire. He is the only mother ****er entitled to it. Unless it can honestly be represented that he doesn't have his faculty the courts have no business ****ing with what this man built

At war with himself doesn't make any sense

disclaimer: I did not read the article at all

jeanpierre · 03-27-2015, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by Foot Stomper

If Rita takes over Sean will scoot. Pretty sure I recall reading that somewhere along the way. Sucks the old Man gave his options away and from what it seems now has no choice but to give Rita the reins if this judge is correct.

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Okay, I'm calling BS on this right now...

Cite your source or move along...

This crappe is as bad as these hacks posing as journalists such as Vargas who dish all this dirt on Rita with these unnamed sources...

Vargas and his like should go back to perpetual high school and right gossip columns...

Originally Posted by Foot Stomper

I don't have to do your research for you. It's a message board full of opinion. If you follow the Saints everyday as I do I am surprised you don't recall this.

A 5 sec google search brings this from 2012.

Poison pill in Payton’s contract may have been a buffer against LeBlanc | ProFootballTalk

Last point first, you're not doing research for me, your backing up your first statement...

Secondly, from the source you cited -

Lost in the fact that the contract extension signed by Saints coach Sean Payton was rejected by the league office due to a term that would have invalidated the deal upon the departure of G.M. Mickey Loomis is the question of why that language was in the contract in the first place.

A league source tells PFT that Payton wanted to be sure that Loomis would be present to serve as a buffer between the coach and Rita Benson LeBlanc.

Officially listed as owner/executive vice president of the team, LeBlanc is expected to have more, not less, power during the term of Payton’s next contract. So Payton prefers not to have to deal with LeBlanc. To ensure that Payton won’t have to, Loomis needs to be there.

This does not say Payton leaves if Rita is in charge, it says that he wants it in his contract that he doesn't have to report to the owner who will be Rita but to Loomis...

Sure many coaches want the freedom to run the team without daily interference or meddling from an owner, this is not exclusive to Payton...

lee909 · 03-27-2015, 11:31 PM

Tom made his own money and should be allowed to do as he wants with it. If we wanted to spend every penny he has on coke,fast cars and faster wiman thats his choice

saintfan · 03-28-2015, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

Tom made his own money and should be allowed to do as he wants with it. If we wanted to spend every penny he has on coke,fast cars and faster wiman thats his choice

Tom, of his own free will, created those trusts. They are what they are for very good reasons. Nobody held a gun to his head.

Tobias-Reiper · 03-28-2015, 01:22 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Tom, of his own free will, created those trusts. They are what they are for very good reasons. Nobody held a gun to his head.

Yep. Pretty much it. It was Benson who established the trusts, so indeed he did whatever he wanted with his money; now he wants to replace tangible assets with IOU's...

hagan714 · 03-28-2015, 05:33 AM

Originally Posted by Foot Stomper

A 5 sec google search brings this from 2012.

Poison pill in Payton’s contract may have been a buffer against LeBlanc | ProFootballTalk

point 1
* may have been - i repeat once again - may have been

point 2
according to league sources - i repeat once again - according to league sources

woulda coulda shoulda type of reporting in my book,

editors view point
lets us spice up the piece with ambiguous tid bits here and there that we do not need to prove at anytime.

sensationalism baby sensationalism

rich like this means disinformation everywhere about everything from both camps. it is just like politics. lie baby lie just listen to the lawyers and do not screw it up.

we will never know the truth.

for we are just fans

in their eyes.

we can be replaced by other fans in another city in a heart beat

spkb25 · 03-28-2015, 06:59 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

Tom made his own money and should be allowed to do as he wants with it. If we wanted to spend every penny he has on coke,fast cars, 20 year old sluts, and faster wiman thats his choice

I fixed your quote

03-27-2015, 01:08 PM	#21
Threaded by Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by Foot Stomper I don't have to do your research for you. It's a message board full of opinion. If you follow the Saints everyday as I do I am surprised you don't recall this. A 5 sec google search brings this from 2012. Poison pill in Payton’s contract may have been a buffer against LeBlanc \| ProFootballTalk Cool link. Let's see what it says: ... why that language was in the contract in the first place. A league source tells PFT ... Aren't we done with anonymous league sources? Until I hear it from Sean Payton... jeanpierre likes this.
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03-27-2015, 02:55 PM	#22
Foot Stomper Carolina Sucks Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Greensboro NC Posts: 379	Re: Judge Says Saints Owner 'At War With Himself' Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper Cool link. Let's see what it says: Aren't we done with anonymous league sources? Until I hear it from Sean Payton... haha...ok

03-27-2015, 03:31 PM	#23
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,712	Re: Judge Says Saints Owner 'At War With Himself' This team is a mess from top to bottom. Dang. After Benson finally came around to running the franchise with an open pocket book he became an excellent owner. Now we're in a transition period and nothing is stable. Thank god for Sean Payton. He is going to be the driving force going into this new season and he will keep this team focused. This will undoubtedly be a locker room distraction but hopefully a small one. Meanwhile, how the hell does a judge from a city with ties to moving the Saints get to be in charge? Didn't this guy used to be San Atonio mayor or something like that?
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03-27-2015, 03:49 PM	#24
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,057	Re: Judge Says Saints Owner 'At War With Himself' This empire was built by Tom Benson, and I am talking about his financial empire. He is the only mother **er entitled to it. Unless it can honestly be represented that he doesn't have his faculty the courts have no business **ing with what this man built At war with himself doesn't make any sense disclaimer: I did not read the article at all

03-27-2015, 05:37 PM	#25
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Judge Says Saints Owner 'At War With Himself' Originally Posted by Foot Stomper If Rita takes over Sean will scoot. Pretty sure I recall reading that somewhere along the way. Sucks the old Man gave his options away and from what it seems now has no choice but to give Rita the reins if this judge is correct. Originally Posted by jeanpierre Okay, I'm calling BS on this right now... Cite your source or move along... This crappe is as bad as these hacks posing as journalists such as Vargas who dish all this dirt on Rita with these unnamed sources... Vargas and his like should go back to perpetual high school and right gossip columns... Originally Posted by Foot Stomper I don't have to do your research for you. It's a message board full of opinion. If you follow the Saints everyday as I do I am surprised you don't recall this. A 5 sec google search brings this from 2012. Poison pill in Payton’s contract may have been a buffer against LeBlanc \| ProFootballTalk Last point first, you're not doing research for me, your backing up your first statement... Secondly, from the source you cited - Lost in the fact that the contract extension signed by Saints coach Sean Payton was rejected by the league office due to a term that would have invalidated the deal upon the departure of G.M. Mickey Loomis is the question of why that language was in the contract in the first place. A league source tells PFT that Payton wanted to be sure that Loomis would be present to serve as a buffer between the coach and Rita Benson LeBlanc. Officially listed as owner/executive vice president of the team, LeBlanc is expected to have more, not less, power during the term of Payton’s next contract. So Payton prefers not to have to deal with LeBlanc. To ensure that Payton won’t have to, Loomis needs to be there. This does not say Payton leaves if Rita is in charge, it says that he wants it in his contract that he doesn't have to report to the owner who will be Rita but to Loomis... Sure many coaches want the freedom to run the team without daily interference or meddling from an owner, this is not exclusive to Payton... OldMaid and SloMotion like this.
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lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,715 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Judge Says Saints Owner 'At War With Himself' Tom made his own money and should be allowed to do as he wants with it. If we wanted to spend every penny he has on coke,fast cars and faster wiman thats his choice spkb25 likes this.

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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Judge Says Saints Owner 'At War With Himself' Originally Posted by lee909 Tom made his own money and should be allowed to do as he wants with it. If we wanted to spend every penny he has on coke,fast cars and faster wiman thats his choice Tom, of his own free will, created those trusts. They are what they are for very good reasons. Nobody held a gun to his head. Tobias-Reiper, jeanpierre and brees84 like this.

03-28-2015, 01:22 AM	#28
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Judge Says Saints Owner 'At War With Himself' Originally Posted by saintfan Tom, of his own free will, created those trusts. They are what they are for very good reasons. Nobody held a gun to his head. Yep. Pretty much it. It was Benson who established the trusts, so indeed he did whatever he wanted with his money; now he wants to replace tangible assets with IOU's... jeanpierre likes this.

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Judge Says Saints Owner 'At War With Himself' Originally Posted by Foot Stomper A 5 sec google search brings this from 2012. Poison pill in Payton’s contract may have been a buffer against LeBlanc \| ProFootballTalk point 1 * may have been - i repeat once again - may have been point 2 according to league sources - i repeat once again - according to league sources woulda coulda shoulda type of reporting in my book, editors view point lets us spice up the piece with ambiguous tid bits here and there that we do not need to prove at anytime. sensationalism baby sensationalism rich like this means disinformation everywhere about everything from both camps. it is just like politics. lie baby lie just listen to the lawyers and do not screw it up. we will never know the truth. for we are just fans in their eyes. we can be replaced by other fans in another city in a heart beat jeanpierre likes this.
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03-28-2015, 06:59 AM	#30
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,057	Re: Judge Says Saints Owner 'At War With Himself' Originally Posted by lee909 Tom made his own money and should be allowed to do as he wants with it. If we wanted to spend every penny he has on coke,fast cars, 20 year old sluts, and faster wiman thats his choice I fixed your quote jeanpierre likes this.

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