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Old 04-08-2015, 05:41 PM   #1
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There are market inefficiencies waiting to be exploited hiding in plain site every year during the draft.

They’re the players draft analysts and fans clamor over and scream about on talk shows every day from February until the draft takes place in late April or early May. Sometimes they’re the most talented players at a particular position, but they’re slow to land due to the red flags attached to their backs.

It’s not an easy road to navigate. Falling in love with a player with a checkered past or character concerns can lead to disaster. In other instances, the teams that run from those flags and are forced to watch those players prosper in other cities.



Count the number of teams that wish they would have taken a gamble on Dallas wide receiver Dez Bryant, Arizona safety Tyrann Mathieu or, once upon a time, Randy Moss. The amount of regret stretches across the league.

Get it right and your franchise prospers. Get in wrong and there isn’t enough regret to cover all the headaches, setbacks and bad headlines that will follow. And sometimes those wrong guesses create even larger issues no one wants to deal with.

This is the terrain the New Orleans Saints will soon have to navigate. Considering the offseason has, at least in part, been about getting read of players who caused issues or distractions in the locker room, it might be foolish to even entertain this discussion. Any flags might mean instant dismissal from the draft board -- that’s generally been the modus operandi since Sean Payton landed here in 2006.

But considering the Saints are in need of talent and there are three players at key positions who could be available when they come on the clock for picks 13, 31 and 44, some consideration could be given to a player with a checkered past.



New Orleans might have to make one of those decisions early in the draft if Randy Gregory slides through the first dozen picks. The Nebraska pass rusher is unquestionably one of the more talented players in this draft class, finishing last season with seven sacks and 8.5 tackles for a loss, but he failed a drug test at the scouting combine and recently admitted to having issues with marijuana.

On the surface, this can be brushed off as a minor issue. Typically, finding out a player partakes now and then, would not be enough to disqualify him from a draft board. It’s the fact that Gregory knew about the test, had ample time to prepare, and still failed that will scare teams away. It brings his intelligence, mental toughness, and discipline into question.

But his talent is intoxicating. Gregory was expected to go within the first 10 picks of the draft, if not higher. If he falls, he’ll unquestionably be the most talented player available to New Orleans at a position of need. But the risk could potentially be too great of a leap for the Saints to take.

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Old 04-08-2015, 06:48 PM   #2
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Re: Should the Saints gamble on Randy Gregory, Marcus Peters or Dorial Green-Beckham?

I guess you have to look at it from a risk/reward view.

Its likely that there will be some games missed because of off-field issues.

But, are these issues a locker room problem, or simply an off-field problem?

I'm sure there are many examples of a player having off-field issues that don't turn into locker room issues, as well as many examples of players with no off-field issues becoming a locker room cancer.

My guess is the staff weighs the risk/reward of each player and adjusts their board accordingly.

Would I spend a top 5 pick on any of these 3 guys? NO!

But would I burn #31 for any of these 3 guys? YES!
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that is all personnel interview stuff
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Re: Should the Saints gamble on Randy Gregory, Marcus Peters or Dorial Green-Beckham?

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Would I spend a top 5 pick on any of these 3 guys? NO!

But would I burn #31 for any of these 3 guys? YES!
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could you live with this draft after you peel yourself off the floor ?

13 - Randy Gregory
31 - Marcus Peters
44 - Dorial Green-Beckham

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Re: Should the Saints gamble on Randy Gregory, Marcus Peters or Dorial Green-Beckham?

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could you live with draft after you peel yourself off the floor ?

13 - Randy Gregory
31 - Marcus Peters
44 - Dorial Green-Beckham
I would be very happy!!!!!!!! Not a big fan of Beckham but he would be good at 44. Then OL and LB in the 3rd.
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Re: Should the Saints gamble on Randy Gregory, Marcus Peters or Dorial Green-Beckham?

Are these guys super talented ? All day, every day and on Sundays.
Take him (Gregory) at 13 or 31? Absolutely not. Sign me up for Schrief or Collins with the 1st pick and Anthony or Kendricks at 31.

Failing 2, or 3 drug test is one thing, but failing to take care of his body before the NFL combine is another. Like I said in the previous Gregory thread, the kid lacks discipline. His current behavior has Josh Gordon written all over him. There is too much other talent at picks #13 and 31. I like Peters however I don't think he is in the cards.
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Re: Should the Saints gamble on Randy Gregory, Marcus Peters or Dorial Green-Beckham?

Sure there are a handful of players team wished they'd taken a chance on.

Hindsight is 20/20.

But I'll bet there are 5 handfuls of players they wish they'd never drafted...
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Re: Should the Saints gamble on Randy Gregory, Marcus Peters or Dorial Green-Beckham?

Its a dilemma for sure .I personally think that testing positive at the combine shows that he is either dumb or dependant. Not someone I want to give millions to and use a valuable pick on . The #31 pick is essentially a second rd pick I would be willing to gamble on greatness. The club can protect itself with contract language to a small degree. Let's face it that some of the best were not necessarily boy scouts. The draft is a big crapshoot .
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Marcus Peters at #31 for sure.
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