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Discuss. Just nothing about qb. Let's go Danno.

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I agree and in that order.

Derrick Johnson or Jammal Brown would be a steal! ;)

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Agreed Venturi.

Danno where you at?

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Tackles are my #1 concern. Gandy is getting older (& slower) and Riley is just gonna get fatter.

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We can get a decent tackle in free agency. I would get a LT and move Gandy to the right for a year. And if it\'s not too big of a cap hit, cut Riley. Just terrible. But my number one need is a LB sized LB. Meaning a run stuffer and no more of these smallish guys. Watson will be good, but he too needs to get bigger and stronger.

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Though I wouldn\'t mind keeping Gandy and moving him to RT, he\'d have to take a cut in pay. We need a premier LT and it\'s going to cost us. If he wont take a pay cut, I\'d like to see what Stinchy can do at RT. He can\'t be worse than Riley.

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If Gandy moves to right for the year, he definitely needs to redo that contract. Help the rest of the team pal. Stinch can back up for another year unless Gandy just blows, then he gets in. Or unless Stinch has a major resurgence in the off season.

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I think we need to make a good faith effort to address these positions in free agency.

In no particular order I\'d like to see us address these positions.

RT--Ryan Diem from the Colts. On the left side, I don\'t see anyone young enough to drop big money on. It\'s a crap shoot, but I\'d rather draft for a LT. Riley shouldn\'t be resigned and we should just take the cap hit on Gandy now.

NT--Seth Payne from the Texans. He\'s still relatively young and has been playing NT in a 3-4 since the Texans started. I\'m not sure he\'d be too expensive.

LB--Ed Hartwell or Adalious Thomas from the Ravens, or Will Witherspoon from the Panthers. I\'d rather not risk Kendrell Bell for huge money, but if he could be had cheap and come back healthy next year, it might be worth the risk to sign 2 LBs. I don\'t see Bell going cheap, but who knows?

S--I don\'t see anyone in free agency that is worth chasing down. This is my lowest priority position. If it really is a critical need we could probably get a guy who could start for us in round 3 or 4.

So basically, I\'d like to see us sign any combination of 2 players out of these 3 positions first: T, NT, LB. If we got Diem and Payne, Diem and Hartwell, Payne and Wtiherspoon, etc, then I\'d be positively giddy.

Seems to me that we need to sign 2 players out of these 3 positions to keep from being painted into a corner on draft day.

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I think Riley is a UFA. I could be wrong. I also want the saints to get a quality OT either Ryan Diem, Walter Jones or Orlando Pace. I like Jammal Brown but if Mike Williams (wr), Marlin Jackson(cb), or Marcus Spears (DT) available I hope they get 1st consideration. I didn\'t mention Derrick Johnson(olb) cuz I can \'t invision him falling past #10.

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I disagree with you guys on this one..The biggest need we have right now, In my opinion is the Safety...

Not that I don\'t agree that all the positions in question need to be addressed...they do...

But I would focus on getting young talent on the strong safety position..Jamaal Brimmer..is one of the best Defensive Players in the Draft thsi year..He is Highly underrated...and would be an absolute steal in the 2nd round..

The only good thing I can tell you about Johnson is..We will get to see him play twice a year..unfortunately, He will be playing for Tampa Bay..

Our 1st round pick will likely be Ahmad Brooks..which will be great...if we could get Brimmer with our 2nd..we will have the best draft we have had in years

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Stincomb... we don\'t to draft a tackle we just need to develop this guy we drafted in the 2nd round. Moving Gandy to right tackle is a good idea. He\'s getting up there in age and is losing a step or two. Travis Johnson for the DT in the first round and Shazor the Michigan\'s safety in the second or a linebacker Michael Boley is my pick. Extremely extremely deep draft. Impact players will still be there in the early 4th round in my opinion. We\'ll get everything we need and them some in this draft. I can\'t wait. Wait never mind... WE HAVE MICKEY LOOMIS DRAFTING FOR US... :casstet:

I read mock drafts everyday and everything looks great no matter what players they put in those slots. One think I was disappointed to see was Corey Webster dropping out of the first round. I\'d like to see him stay in the first. Remember he could have left last year to become a top 15 selection but choose to come back for an injury riddled senior season. Very unfortunate.

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shadowdrinker... Ahmad Brooks choose to go back to Virginia and Brimmer is sky rocketing up the draft charts. He\'s going to be a first rounder.

brooksmustgo... Very good choices I agree totally. Those linebacker selections make a lot of sense and Seth Payne is one of the most under rated tackles in the league.

saintswhoadi... remember our Campbell debate, I\'m surprised to say he also is shooting up the draft charts himself. :) You might be right. Hopefully Campbell can prove me wrong because I\'d love to see him succeed.

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Brooks is staying in college?..well in that case..It would only make more sense to me to get Brimmer in the 1st round...It would be like adding a linbacker in essence..He could play in the box and help with the run..cover the T.E...and give some deep help to our secondary..It would be a great choice I think..especially now that the top 2 LB\'s are esentially out of our reach..

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As far as Gandy goes..I think he would be better suited as a situational player..Goalline, working inside.. Special Teams..stuff like that...We desperatley need real power in the trenches...on a consitent basis...Brooks freaks out when pressured..and he is constantly under pressure

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Hey papz, I told you so. This guy is good and didn\'t look phased at all by pressure to me. HE picked up a new offense after 3 years of different offenses previously. I think he would be an awesome pick for the 3rd if he is still there.

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No fair...
You lumped them all into one post. :o
Oh well, touche!

You know, maybe Haslet was never really in Brooks\' corner to start with. Last night on WWL Mike D stated that Haz rarely even attended the offensive meetings. Maybe the real Brooks advocate was McCarthy and Jim just always took McCarthy\'s word on Brooks. \"If my OC wants him, we\'re gonna keep him\".

I think if McCarthy leaves, so will Brooks.

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Safety positions-
I wouldn\'t give up on Mel Mitchell yet. Before his injury he was progressing nicely. He\'s a great tackler and a big hitter.
I don\'t understand all this talk about moving Tebucky to SS. I may be wrong but isn\'t the SS supposed to be the LB of the secondary? He needs to diagnose plays quickly, and lay the wood. Instinct and tackling ability aren\'t the 1st things I think of when you mention Tebucky. Although he made huge strides this year.
I have a lot of respect for Mike Detillier. Last night he mentioned we should move Tebucky to SS. I\'ll admit I\'m no football guru so maybe someone else can explain this to me. Is it easier to play SS than FS? Does it take less instincts? Would he contribute more as a SS? Maybe the old-school definitions of FS and SS don\'t apply to todays versions.
Can Mel Mitchell play FS? I know he\'s fast but I always thought of the FS having CB type skills and the SS having more LB type skills. I\'ve been hearing a lot about this Thomas safety out of UGA. I didn\'t see him play. Is he the real deal? I think he\'d be a good pick in the 2nd/3rd rounder, if we get our LB in the 1st.

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As far as Riley he is a Fa, so it cost nothing to let his fat a$$ go!!!!!!!

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Gandy is scheduled to have a 4.5 million dollar cap number this year. That seems WAY to expensive to keep a guy as a role player. If we are going to keep him, we might want to think about either moving him to RT or to G. He still seems overpriced to me. I\'d rather take the cap hit and start over with the tackles.

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Venturi, I don\'t know how you got that quote and related it to Victor Riley. It was about Jason Campbell. stay with us buddy. ;)

Danno, I said no qb, and you immediately talk about the qb right out the gate. Can\'t you talk about anything else? :P

Now as far as the safety position goes, I think they just want more plays out of the safety. Remember Sammy Knight as a strogn safety? He was a playmakes AND he could read and react against the run. Bellamy is great aginstthe run, but he is not a ballhawk, which I think is what Detillier is trying to get on the field. You get Mitchell to play free and maybe he is better at making plays on the ball. I hate seeing our defense playing two deep and Tesucky isn\'t in the picture until the wr has caught the ball. Go make a play genius. His contract necessitates that they keep him, and he has talent, his football skills just need to come around. I think he can do an okay job as strong safety if Mitchell is the answer at free. And Thomas Davis is a beast. He could play LB in the NFL as small as some LBs go. Now that is a guy I would love to have on our team.

BMG, youare right, for Gandy\'s salary he can not be a situational player. He needs to move to right for a year. and let someone else man left. He also needs to take a lower cap number to help the team if such a move is made.

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I thought it was moderately clever.

216 posts about Brooks, 1 post about 7 other positions. :P

Oh well. I guess I could just decide to skip \'em.

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Gandy cannot move to RT, his run blocking skills aren\'t good enough. He\'s getting very slow very quickly. He may be revitalized by (1) keeping a back in on passing downs or using a TE to block (since we were frequently in one back sets and Duece isn\'t the best pass protector around), or (2) getting a LG who isn\'t as slow as he is.

I\'ll go out on a limb here and say that moving T-buck to SS would be a waste of the skills he does has. T-buck has good speed and is a decent tackler (now), but he doesn\'t think too quickly and is relatively stupid when he gets anywhere near the offensive backfield. I say keep him where he is. It is unlikely that he\'ll ever be a big play safety, but he\'s fine.

I would say that S is a big need for us. The problem isn\'t that, it is that there are no good safeties available in FA. We\'ll have to get one through the draft or a trade. I agree with Danno that Mel Mitchell is still worth a shot. If Bellamy can stay as good as he was this year, which I doubt, then we\'re ok at S, but VERY thin and not very flashy.

Here are some guys I think we should look at:
OT - Matt Willig , Ryan Diem (Colts), Floyd Womak (Seahawks)
OG - Joe Andruzzi (Pats)

LB - Wali Rainer (Lions), Hannibal Navies (Packers), Julian Petersen (9ers), Will Whitherspoon (Panthers), Jeremiah Trotter (Eagles), Ed Hartwell (Ravens).

I\'m currently of the view that we need two LBs and two OTs. I think Gandy may be salvageable for one more season, but he\'ll need some help. As for our LBs, Buckwoldt will only be a starter if he beefs up a lot, and IMO James Allen is not a starter in the NFL (he had a few good games, but he had as many bad ones). Also, these two played well for a handful of games; if we can get proven starters, I say go for it.

Does anyone see a Safety that would be worth a third or fourth round pick in this year\'s draft? Honestly, I\'m just curious.

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i think their are some good lbs and cbs in this draft-but at the lower levels i think we should draft a qb and a develepomental rb..

safety and ot in free agency.

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I\'d take Donte Nicholson from OU for a SS in a heartbeat if he\'s still there at round 3.

Vince Fuller maybe with a round 4.

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Sorry whodi, i have been known to make a mistake once in a while..........once in a long while!

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can Thomas Davis play safety? I don\'t want small lb\'s...i want playmakers..ala derick johnson or at worst burnett.

what about the safety from auburn..rosegreen(?)- in a later round?

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That\'s no prob dude. Just didn\'t want you to waste your argument on the wrong quote.

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Rosegreen is a bit undersized, but he hits hard, runs well and is always around the ball. A bit of a Ballhawk, just what we need. I believe he had 4 INT\'s in one game against Tennessee this years. He was also a vocal leader of a great Aburn D this year. I think he would be a great mid to late round pick.

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Don\'t get too excited yet saintswhoadi :D ...we\'ll see in his workouts.

Thomas Davis is another version of Shaun Taylor, just not as good. But anything close to him and damn straight for me. Mel Mitchell can be a tackling machine and I think he would be great starting at SS for us. I believe if he got the oppurtunity he will turn a lot of heads in this league.

I think our linebacker situation isn\'t as bad as people make it out to be. They played outstanding at the end of last year and remember these guys are still rookies. Give them more time to gel and I think we will be fine. Just change up our schemes to suit their athletic abilities. Lots of talent there it\'s just that we need to let them grow. I think they will be consistent next year, well at least better because more chemistry will be built. I think drafting a linebacker in the first round would be a mistake and Travis Johnson would be a great pick. Either a big DT with drive or a shutdown corner in case Mckenzie ask for that HUGE extension he wanted last year in GB.

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I like the idea of drafting Travis Johnson, but our lbs are smallish. Now if Watson and Bockwoldt strengthen in the off-season I will be more confident about the position. I agree with Kool though, no James Allen. No way, no how. So we still need someone for that position. I really wanna go with free agency there and the best choice is Hartwell. Coming fromt hat D, he can hopefully instill a nastiness in our players thatthey don\'t have, besides Charles Grant. I think we can look corner in the second round if we go safety or DT int he first. Now, almost no likelihood of this happenning, but what if sullivan gets off his fat ass this offseason and we don\'t need a DT. That would be HUGE to not have wasted those two picks and passed on others for this bum. That would allows us to change our draft strategy and address some other needs. Fat chance though, no pun intended.

Stop sleeping on Campbell papz. you\'ll see. :P

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Haha saintswhoadi... yea Mel Kiper was talking very good about Campbell for the senior bowl practice... we\'ll see!

Yea I think we should deal with our linebacking situation through free agency. Many top names and impact players that can help lead our defense. They need mentor(s) that will show them the tidbits and what they should be seeing and anticipating. Hartwell is also my number one choice. I think Trotter is a product of the Eagles system because he absolutely blew in Washington.

Can we draft a defensive coordinator? :D

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Mel Mitchell?..What the heck has he ever done?...He has a total of 36 tackles for his career..no int\'s... no sacks...He\'s not going to be the answer....

He has had a few decent plays in pre season games..but , that\'s about the peak of his accomplishiments...

They have tried to address the LB situation..And..they have done a fair job of getting talent in that spot...

This year..The backfield needs to be the focus of the Draft...If we can\'t get a top 5 safety..we need to get a top 5 CB..period...

Mel Mitchell has shown very little potential, other then riding the pine..and keeping it warm...and it\'s about time the team focused on improving the backfield...Mitchell couldn\'t be a starter on any NFL team...

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Where is the faith shadowdrinker... he\'s too talented to stay just playing special teams. Remember he was hurt and had already won the starting safety job the year before. He does have the talent just not the oppurtunity. It will be all sorted out after the draft and in camp anyways. Whether or not he ever gets his chance, I still believe he is very talented and he does a fabolous job on special teams. Don\'t be surprised if he makes the pro bowl one day just for special teams ala Larry Izzo, Steve Tasker, and remember Terrence MaGee started off returning kicks only. Now he\'s a full time corner for the bills. Some guys just need to get the oppurtunity to showcase their talents and Mitchell hasn\'t received his fair chance yet.

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So..Then your saying he should be another \'\'Project\'\'?

The team needs playmakers in the Secondary...We have an excellent chance of picking up a very good Safety in the draft..And I pray they get the position filled , after years of dismal play from the Strong Safety position...

They addressed the LB situation fairly well last year..and we will likely see measurable improvement in that area in the coming years...

We needed a big time guy in the Backfield , and they did thier best to get Mike...and he has had reasonable success..but..he\'s about the only one in the backfield with any real promise..Brown is not going to be savior of the secondary..he was very subpar this year...and is looking like another candidate for the \'\'project\'\' squad....

However..the position that has been neglected..is now one of the greatest needs on the entire depth chart..Safety...

When Knight was here..we were a better defense..period...We need to get some strength in the backfield..and Mel Mitchell can\'t even beat out crappy Bellamy...and he won\'t this year either...He has never had a sack..a forced fumble..a recovered fumble..an Interception..hell..he\'s never even deflected a pass in his carreer...36 tackles total for his carreer..He\'s not Tasker..nor Mcgee..he\'s just not going to make us better...

While I agree the O line needs new blood as well..The Defense was as weak as I have ever seen..and It just isn\'t going to fix itself...If we get a top 5 safety..we move up at least 10 spots in overall Defense rankings....With the young guns we have at Lb now..we should be able to get better up front...and quickly at that...without a backfield to complement them..it a lost cause...

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Hmmm. Only played 2 seasons, suffered an ACL and missed his entire 2nd year. So in basically his 2nd season (1st season after the ACL which usually takes about a year or so to recover from) he was a special teams stand-out.

He appears to have nearly all of his lateral agility back. Was voted the hardest hitter on the team, when Sammy Knight was still here. Was drafted with the intention of learning the position for a couple years, hopes of taking over the safety position in 2 or 3 years. He had already beaten out Bellamy, in only his 2nd year, then he got clipped.

Its hard to get sacks and picks when you\'re playing special teams. Yea, he\'s worthless, lets cut him.

Unbelievable. He MAY not develop into a stud, but he has the skills and talent to develop into the next Rodney Harrison.

Nobody said lets cut every one of our safeties and only depend on Mitchell. We said don\'t rule this kid out. Do you have something against developing young players?

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Where do you guys come up with this stuff?

Now his skills are comparable to Rodney Harrison?

He played in all but 2 of the games last year...If he was healthy enough to play on Special Teams, He was healthy enough to play on Defense...he just wasn\'t good enough...

He has had 3 years now for his development...although 1 of those 3 was spent on injured reserve, that should have allowed time to grasp the mental side of the position he was drafted to play..and yet, he didn\'t start...

I am all for developing young talent...We needed LB\'s desperately last year..We went out and got 2, they have played well and are right on schedule for replacing the weak spots we have in that area...

We also needed a Defensive Back to come in and make an impact..We did well to get Mckensie...and he is working out fine, so far...

We have enough \'\'Project\'\' players...We need help in the Safety dept...and Mitchell has failed to be of any help in the Defense...He is a decent Special Teamer...and that about sums it up...

How many years should he get to become better?....

Luckily...he was signed to a 3 year deal coming out...and will likely be replaced..or..signed as a plug for special teams...Either way..Don\'t expect much of a different Mitchell this year, than the same one we have seen for three years now...what has he shown to make you think otherwise?

Safety has been a position in question for too long now..It needs to be addressed, by drafting a player who can actually start....Mitchell was a 5th round draft pick....We should look for a Safety the first day of the draft....maybe even the 1st round...

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I\'m not saying he\'s the next Rodney Harrison, I\'m saying he has similar skills, basically big-time hitting ability. He MAY develop into a good safety. He also MAY not.

MAY: a possibilty, might

Try a dictionary if you\'re still confused.

Rodney Harrison didn\'t start a single freaking game in his 1st two years. He had a whopping 24 career tackles. Gee, I wonder how many people wanted to cut him because this 5th round selection from a small school didn\'t do squat in his 1st two years.

Safety\'s rarely go in the 1st round unless its a Sean Taylor type. I don\'t think there\'s a Sean Taylor type in the draft this year. I\'d rather get a LB/OT this year.
Id look at a good safety in the 2nd/3rd, maybe even 4th if this years crop is deep enough.

I\'m also more concerned with FS than I am SS. But I\'d bring in some competition for both.

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Thanks Danno my sentiments exactly. You are obviously just looking at the stat lines shadow and haven\'t ever watched this guy play. The man can hit. You say we need playmakers in our secondary, then why not cut Jones and Bellamy years ago? He already beaten out Bellamy for the job if we didn\'t already state that earlier. HE GOT HURT. When he was drafted he was our safety of the future. He was a steal where he was drafted and everyone said so. He was from a very small school therefore not many people considered him. He is bigger than Jones and Bellamy, as fast as Jones, and tackles better than both of them. What is not to like?

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What\'s not to like is the fact that noone has seen how well he can cover Wide Recievers, or Tight Ends.

Your right..I haven\'t really seen him play all that much..and niether has anyone else...He is a Special Teamer..other than a few big hits in the Pre season against 3rd and 4th srtingers..He has had no real success to speak of... Gleason is a hard hitter too..we have several of those type of players..

We need a guy who has been playing safety for the last few years...I would prefer we get someone from the College ranks...But if the right Free agent were to become available..then that would be nice as well..

Our needs..In order of preference..In my opinion..

1 Safety

2 Tackle

3 QB

4 CB

5 LB

The only reason I say LB so late is ..I believe the Staff did this one right last year..they infused 2 talented young LB\'s..and with 1 year of development...and the Off-season..I believe they will start to fill the void we have had for quite sometime in that area...

Young has been a very decent DT throughout his carreer..and had a good year last year...If , ..Somehow,...The staff can begin to get some production out of Sullivan, then we stand to improve an allready young, talented D line..

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LOL I dont think you read anything but the last sentence of the comment written and responded to it. Oh well you are entitled to your opinions. This coming from a guy who thought Ahmad Brooks was still in the draft when he pulled out a month ago. Also Tasker, MaGee, etc had to start somewhere. Oh wait it was special teams. He\'s not those players because he\'s Mel Mitchell. The guy who beat out Bellamy and tore his ACL which caused him to lose his STARTING SS job. I don\'t know how many more times WE CAN REITTERATE THAT TO YOU.

DT, CB, OL, back up running back,QB... linebacker can be filled via free agency.