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jeanpierre 05-30-2015 12:42 PM

New Orleans Saints rebuilding defense one layer at a time
 
There was something notable about New Orleans Saints cornerback Brandon Browner's session with the media Thursday afternoon.

As Browner talked about the offseason and OTAs, there was a phrase he continued to mention: simplifying the defense.


More> New Orleans Saints rebuilding defense one layer at a time | NOLA.com

jeanpierre 05-30-2015 12:47 PM

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"While this particular group of Saints defenders is a little different from the one that struggled through most of the 2014 regular season -- the addition of Browner, the departure of defensive backs Corey White and Patrick Robinson -- they've still been through this song and dance before."

Seems like we had this discussion before about Ryan and making the defense too complicated...

Now maybe these guys just aren't the brightest - hey, they're football players - but, it seems Ryan is trying to be as sophisticated as Payton is on offense...

Ryan should just remember to K.I.S.S. (Keep It Simple Stupid!)...

Foot Stomper 05-30-2015 12:56 PM

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I am cautiously optimistic going into this year. This team quit against Carolina with so much on the line in the Dome last year which was nothing short of embarrassing.

jeanpierre 05-30-2015 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Foot Stomper (Post 656755)
I am cautiously optimistic going into this year. This team quit against Carolina with so much on the line in the Dome last year which was nothing short of embarrassing.

Felt the Cincinnati game was just as bad; getting man-handled like the Bengals did, just power running right over us (which is why I wanted us to sign G Clint Boling)...

Was happy for Saints fans in WV and surrounding area, but can't help but wonder if Training camp has made us too soft...

hagan714 05-30-2015 08:50 PM

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"Simplifying makes it much easier, it makes you play faster because you're not thinking about so many things," Browner said. "You can just have fun and play loose."

KISS

This I am netting is the Dennis effect

Once again Rob proved his inability to adjust as the season went on.

ChrisXVI 05-30-2015 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 656783)
"Simplifying makes it much easier, it makes you play faster because you're not thinking about so many things," Browner said. "You can just have fun and play loose."

KISS

This I am netting is the Dennis effect

Once again Rob proved his inability to adjust as the season went on.

That's B.S... After like the third or fourth game last season Rob said he was simplifying his defense because his players were too dumb to understand it (my words, not his.) How f*****g hard was his defense to learn to start with that a year later he's still trying to simplify it?! Our defensive players aren't very bright.

hagan714 05-30-2015 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 656788)
That's B.S... After like the third or fourth game last season Rob said he was simplifying his defense because his players were too dumb to understand it (my words, not his.) How f*****g hard was his defense to learn to start with that a year later he's still trying to simplify it?! Our defensive players aren't very bright.

Same thing was said in Dallas.

"Rob's first-year defense was a little different than his second-year defense, and now we've got (Allen) here and he's bringing on a whole new characteristic to everything," Jordan said.


I will stick with the players opinion.

Rob defense started to tank long before the 4th game of last year. he had no answers then or the start of last years season.

This is the Dennis effect

ChrisXVI 05-30-2015 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 656789)
Same thing was said in Dallas.

"Rob's first-year defense was a little different than his second-year defense, and now we've got (Allen) here and he's bringing on a whole new characteristic to everything," Jordan said.


I will stick with the players opinion.

Rob defense started to tank long before the 4th game of last year. he had no answers then or the start of last years season.

This is the Dennis effect

That post doesn't make any sense. Cameron Jordan, who is one of our softest and most inconsistent players likes the new soft-spoken assistant coach... Surprise, surprise.

jeanpierre 05-31-2015 12:02 AM

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I like Ryan's personality...

However, there seems to be a disconnect and it points to Ryan's ability to communicate what he wants from his players...

There was commentary that indicated Ryan had an inclination for complicated defenses and it's still circling...

Sources:

'Mad scientist' Rob Ryan continues to adapt unique approach with New Orleans Saints defense | NOLA.com

Jerry Jones: Rob Ryan’s defense is “too much scheme” | ProFootballTalk

New Orleans Saints defense supports coordinator Rob Ryan | FOX Sports

hagan714 05-31-2015 05:31 AM

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i would drink with Rob in heartbeat too

but his track history of over complicating things is starting to blind me. it is getting to the point it is glaring obvious he can be his own worse enemy. Just like SP the two can get to cute for their own good. SP just is just better at it

Rugby Saint II 05-31-2015 12:57 PM

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The secondary must have had a very low IQ......."mama always said stupid is as stupid does."

triman 05-31-2015 05:59 PM

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You can have any scheme you want and if you don't tackle it doesn't matter.Last year we couldn't cover and we couldn't tackle. I keep coming back to the fact that we could have won 3 or four games last year with somebody making a play on third and long at the end of the game . one player makes a play and we win . Drew had 3 game winning drives at the end of games and we couldn't close the deal with a stop with the game on the line. Three wins and we easily get a division title. Players make the play with the game on the line .


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