Jermaine Gresham

saintsfan1976 · 06-04-2015, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Tell me about it... *cough* Byrd *cough*

Ultimately it was a knee that landed Byrd on IR. Surgeries for herniated disks are less intense

brees84 · 06-04-2015, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Ultimately it was a knee that landed Byrd on IR. Surgeries for herniated disks are less intense

Yes, but Byrd said (between the lines) that recovery didn't go perfect (rushed into action) and he won't make same mistake again.

burningmetal · 06-04-2015, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

Jermaine Gresham had 5 tds on 62 catches and 460 yards as a #1 in 2014
Josh Hill had 5 tds on 14 catches and 176 yards as a #3 TE in 2014

Potential is there for Hill. I say give him a chance.

This is exactly what I don't get. He had five touchdowns, but ONLY 14 catches. Nobody is worried about Josh Hill when you have as many weapons as we had. I don't consider the 5 TD's to be evidence of potential, when he isn't doing much otherwise.

I'm not saying there is absolutely no potential there (though I am saying that I don't see it right now) but the TD's don't mean a lot to me. I don't have much interest in Gresham, but it's hard to compare him to Josh Hill when you consider the offenses and the QB's, especially. Gresham seems to get hurt a lot as well.

NOLA54 · 06-04-2015, 09:29 PM

if he fits they will sign him.

hagan714 · 06-04-2015, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Didn't he have offseason back surgery?

herniated disk

saintsfan1976 · 06-05-2015, 06:43 AM

Originally Posted by brees84

Yes, but Byrd said (between the lines) that recovery didn't go perfect (rushed into action) and he won't make same mistake again.

Each surgery is different and recovery depends on the individual's body

K Major · 06-05-2015, 09:14 AM

When healthy, Gresham is a monster. Wouldn't surprise me that once he is cleared by doctors/medical officials, he will be signed in N O. This has Sean Payton written all over it.

rezburna · 06-05-2015, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

When healthy, Gresham is a monster. Wouldn't surprise me that once he is cleared by doctors/medical officials, he will be signed in N O. This has Sean Payton written all over it.

Agreed. Plus, we don't have to take him out on rushing downs.

Rugby Saint II · 06-05-2015, 01:27 PM

First off I'm concerned about his coaches comments. Very worried. We don't need a head case, distraction or diva in the locker room. Especially this offseason. However, the talent is there and he looks to be a good fit in a Sean Payton offense. Especially as a blocker. So, I have mixed emotions about Signing Gresham to a contract.

jeanpierre · 06-05-2015, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

"He's a man of many, many, many, many, many, many moods,"
- Marvin Lewis

Fumbles, dropped passes and injuries marred what could have been a stellar first five years of his career.

Sure, Gresham has been to the Pro Bowl, but that's not what Bengals fans immediately associate with him.

Before anything else they highlight the two cut off routes he had last season that cost the Bengals at least one touchdown. They also bring up his 11 total fumbles, and untimely drops like the two that came in the wild-card round playoff loss at Houston after the 2012 season.

"He's had inconsistent play, but he's played at a high level," Lewis said. "He's a Pro Bowl player."

And you're balsting Josh Hill?????

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

First off I'm concerned about his coaches comments. Very worried. We don't need a head case, distraction or diva in the locker room. Especially this offseason. However, the talent is there and he looks to be a good fit in a Sean Payton offense. Especially as a blocker. So, I have mixed emotions about Signing Gresham to a contract.

Think Rugs and '76 are right to be concerned with PUBLISHED comments regarding said player...

Marvin is usually a very positive person and feels that supporting former players, teammates, coworkers yields positive return karma...

I would definitely give pause after reading those things about Gresham...

We always want to improve the team, but ask yourselves - Is his skill set so unique and elevated that it's worth tacking on any baggage, drama that we just shipped out of here in the offseason?!?

06-04-2015, 05:45 PM	#21
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,536 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Jermaine Gresham Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Tell me about it... cough Byrd cough Ultimately it was a knee that landed Byrd on IR. Surgeries for herniated disks are less intense

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brees84 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,015	Re: Jermaine Gresham Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Ultimately it was a knee that landed Byrd on IR. Surgeries for herniated disks are less intense Yes, but Byrd said (between the lines) that recovery didn't go perfect (rushed into action) and he won't make same mistake again.
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06-04-2015, 07:29 PM	#23
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,905 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Jermaine Gresham Originally Posted by voodooido Jermaine Gresham had 5 tds on 62 catches and 460 yards as a #1 in 2014 Josh Hill had 5 tds on 14 catches and 176 yards as a #3 TE in 2014 Potential is there for Hill. I say give him a chance. This is exactly what I don't get. He had five touchdowns, but ONLY 14 catches. Nobody is worried about Josh Hill when you have as many weapons as we had. I don't consider the 5 TD's to be evidence of potential, when he isn't doing much otherwise. I'm not saying there is absolutely no potential there (though I am saying that I don't see it right now) but the TD's don't mean a lot to me. I don't have much interest in Gresham, but it's hard to compare him to Josh Hill when you consider the offenses and the QB's, especially. Gresham seems to get hurt a lot as well.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,536 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Jermaine Gresham Originally Posted by brees84 Yes, but Byrd said (between the lines) that recovery didn't go perfect (rushed into action) and he won't make same mistake again. Each surgery is different and recovery depends on the individual's body

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,652	Re: Jermaine Gresham Originally Posted by K Major When healthy, Gresham is a monster. Wouldn't surprise me that once he is cleared by doctors/medical officials, he will be signed in N O. This has Sean Payton written all over it. Agreed. Plus, we don't have to take him out on rushing downs.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,727	Re: Jermaine Gresham First off I'm concerned about his coaches comments. Very worried. We don't need a head case, distraction or diva in the locker room. Especially this offseason. However, the talent is there and he looks to be a good fit in a Sean Payton offense. Especially as a blocker. So, I have mixed emotions about Signing Gresham to a contract. Danno and jeanpierre like this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Jermaine Gresham Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 "He's a man of many, many, many, many, many, many moods," - Marvin Lewis Fumbles, dropped passes and injuries marred what could have been a stellar first five years of his career. Sure, Gresham has been to the Pro Bowl, but that's not what Bengals fans immediately associate with him. Before anything else they highlight the two cut off routes he had last season that cost the Bengals at least one touchdown. They also bring up his 11 total fumbles, and untimely drops like the two that came in the wild-card round playoff loss at Houston after the 2012 season. "He's had inconsistent play, but he's played at a high level," Lewis said. "He's a Pro Bowl player." And you're balsting Josh Hill????? Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II First off I'm concerned about his coaches comments. Very worried. We don't need a head case, distraction or diva in the locker room. Especially this offseason. However, the talent is there and he looks to be a good fit in a Sean Payton offense. Especially as a blocker. So, I have mixed emotions about Signing Gresham to a contract. Think Rugs and '76 are right to be concerned with PUBLISHED comments regarding said player... Marvin is usually a very positive person and feels that supporting former players, teammates, coworkers yields positive return karma... I would definitely give pause after reading those things about Gresham... We always want to improve the team, but ask yourselves - Is his skill set so unique and elevated that it's worth tacking on any baggage, drama that we just shipped out of here in the offseason?!?

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