Saints’ David Hawthorne...Position Battle With Talented Rookie Brewing

07-11-2015, 07:22 AM

Pretty sure Anthony is already better than Hawthorne in pass coverage.

jeanpierre · 07-11-2015, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Pretty sure Anthony is already better than Hawthorne in pass coverage.

If Anthony makes half his tackles, he's better than Hawthorne (period)...

It's apparent that Hawthorne's best days were behind him before Loomis signed him...

Rugby Saint II · 07-12-2015, 11:44 AM

Hawthorne has an uphill battle. It does help that he is back playing his position.

QBREES9 · 07-12-2015, 01:04 PM

The best players play

|Mitch| · 07-12-2015, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

The best players play

Is that who the fans think are the best players or who the coaches think are the best players?

jeanpierre · 07-12-2015, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

If all goes well Hawthorne will be the ultimate utility LB by seasons end. playing where ever needed. huge plus. but i am betting we get half way there and he ends up back at his old spot.

Really like the first part of your post; what worries me is if their is a reluctance to play the rookies...

halloween 65 · 07-13-2015, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Exactly...

Look, Jenkins had a very impressive Rookie season, especially without Bunkley rotating when Brodrick got hurt in 2013...

Last season, Jenkins started the off-season with a torn pectoral muscle; so, that and with film on him teams had an edge...

He'll come back this season strong and re-dedicated...

We do need to keep looking to draft, sign top flight Nose Tackles for the defense to remain respectable at a minimum...

That was when a 4-3 was being played. If we go 3-4 and neither Bunkley or Jenkins hold ground while taking on double teams I think we would have to go back to a 4-3, I hope they can if not I would see if the 5th round pick at NT could, quick. I like Davidson.

jeanpierre · 07-13-2015, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

That was when a 4-3 was being played. If we go 3-4 and neither Bunkley or Jenkins hold ground while taking on double teams I think we would have to go back to a 4-3, I hope they can if not I would see if the 5th round pick at NT could, quick. I like Davidson.

Well, John Jenkins and Brodrick Bunkley will tell you they were facing double teams at the Nose Tackle...

The only reason why we weren't more in a true 3-4 is because Parys Haralson lacked top end speed and Junior Gallete lacked range to cover and discipline against the run...

Personnel has changed dramatically this offseason, so we should see what has been talked about the past two offseasons...

ScottF · 07-18-2015, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

The best players play

and playing more 3-4 means we can rotate DT's more. Just get the freshest, most skilled players out there for each play, whether it's 3-4, 4-3, or nickel

Let's be honest- when we were running that 3 safety set we really just didn[t have much else

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07-11-2015, 11:06 AM	#12
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints’ David Hawthorne...Position Battle With Talented Rookie Brewing Originally Posted by dizzle88 Pretty sure Anthony is already better than Hawthorne in pass coverage. If Anthony makes half his tackles, he's better than Hawthorne (period)... It's apparent that Hawthorne's best days were behind him before Loomis signed him... MarchingOn likes this.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Saints’ David Hawthorne...Position Battle With Talented Rookie Brewing Originally Posted by QBREES9 The best players play Is that who the fans think are the best players or who the coaches think are the best players?

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints’ David Hawthorne...Position Battle With Talented Rookie Brewing Originally Posted by hagan714 If all goes well Hawthorne will be the ultimate utility LB by seasons end. playing where ever needed. huge plus. but i am betting we get half way there and he ends up back at his old spot. Really like the first part of your post; what worries me is if their is a reluctance to play the rookies...

07-13-2015, 10:53 AM	#17
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Saints’ David Hawthorne...Position Battle With Talented Rookie Brewing Originally Posted by jeanpierre Exactly... Look, Jenkins had a very impressive Rookie season, especially without Bunkley rotating when Brodrick got hurt in 2013... Last season, Jenkins started the off-season with a torn pectoral muscle; so, that and with film on him teams had an edge... He'll come back this season strong and re-dedicated... We do need to keep looking to draft, sign top flight Nose Tackles for the defense to remain respectable at a minimum... That was when a 4-3 was being played. If we go 3-4 and neither Bunkley or Jenkins hold ground while taking on double teams I think we would have to go back to a 4-3, I hope they can if not I would see if the 5th round pick at NT could, quick. I like Davidson.

07-13-2015, 12:40 PM	#18
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints’ David Hawthorne...Position Battle With Talented Rookie Brewing Originally Posted by halloween 65 That was when a 4-3 was being played. If we go 3-4 and neither Bunkley or Jenkins hold ground while taking on double teams I think we would have to go back to a 4-3, I hope they can if not I would see if the 5th round pick at NT could, quick. I like Davidson. Well, John Jenkins and Brodrick Bunkley will tell you they were facing double teams at the Nose Tackle... The only reason why we weren't more in a true 3-4 is because Parys Haralson lacked top end speed and Junior Gallete lacked range to cover and discipline against the run... Personnel has changed dramatically this offseason, so we should see what has been talked about the past two offseasons...

07-18-2015, 08:09 PM	#19
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Saints’ David Hawthorne...Position Battle With Talented Rookie Brewing Originally Posted by QBREES9 The best players play and playing more 3-4 means we can rotate DT's more. Just get the freshest, most skilled players out there for each play, whether it's 3-4, 4-3, or nickel Let's be honest- when we were running that 3 safety set we really just didn[t have much else

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