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Old 07-11-2015, 10:58 AM   #11
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Well, while the politicians and the radicals are in charge of revising history, we've got some more flags to remove based on association...



Of course, if men would really want to learn the truth of their history and not burn it nor remove it, they'd know that those were the flags of the United States and that a few more stars were added since that civic pride march of 1925...

Ironically, we cling to a symbol in the State of Louisiana that was used to brand thousands of slaves (i.e. Code Noir) and represented allegiance to the same European monarchical tyranny that came into conflict with thirteen of its colonies in North America...

Symbols, Flags are not just what their history was, but how we take them up, learn from them and apply them in our lives today...

Flag, Statue Removing is a terrible road to start down as it leads to book burning, nighttime marches by torch, and annexing lesser neighboring sovereignties...

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Old 07-11-2015, 04:09 PM   #12
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I was in the Kappa Alpha Order in college. Our fraternity represents the values of the old south........not slavery. When I was in college the president of the University brought me in to his office to ask that we not fly the confederate flag which is our official flag at the football games. I was polite and said Hell No!!!

I have flown the flag many times over my house. I had a confederate flag on my bumper and was told by a black child that I was racist so I had to rethink it. I eventually only flew my flag in my bed room........and I stopped that when black friends told me it was offensive. I still love that flag. The American flag is the most beautiful in the world followed closely by the confederate flag.

Oh yes, I love rainbows but am not overly fond of homosexuals.......they creep me out. And the rainbow flag represents unnatural acts to me. And I find it offensive, but does anyone care? No.
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Old 07-11-2015, 07:16 PM   #13
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I agree the Confederate flag has a place in history.

BUT...I'm not sure what part of the south you live in, where I am for most people who fly it, wear it, whatever they are racist.

I get the heritage angle, I do. But once it was adopted by the klan and other racist groups is heritage it became a heritage of hatred and prejudice.

Look at the swastika. That is an ancient symbol used in many different incantations throughout history and the world as a religious symbol (Hindu temples throughout India) or a symbol of good luck (many including the Cherokee nation). Once the swastika became associated with the nazis and what they stand for... Well i hope you can see where i am going with this.
I get where you're coming from.

Honestly, it was why I said 'They themselves may or may not be prejudice, but the reason for them flying the flag generally is an issue of pride of hailing from the south." So yeah, I get that people who wear it may be prejudice, some may even be racist (not synonymous terms even though they are portrayed to be), but I do not believe, nor have my interactions with these people indicated, that they wear it because they hate black people. They usually wear it because of where they are from. The fact that some may be prejudice or in some cases racist is not the reason they wear the flag or display it. Matter of fact, where they are from more than likely is cause for how they see things vs the reason they wear the flag. Now the KKK uniform, that to me is more akin to the Nazi symbol. I hope I am making sense.

We just disagree, which is okay. I think you're argument makes sense. It is logical, and noting wrong with you seeing things that way.
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We're going to the hilt on this stuff.


Mississippi, you're next.

NAACP Leader: Next Target Is The Mississippi State Flag


And I live in Arkansas and you can bet your sweet patootie it is on the hit list, too.



And all you confederate flag folks - get ready to be charged with a hate crime if the movement has its way...

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Old 07-12-2015, 12:42 AM   #15
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General Lee? Jefferson Davis?

These were brave men who defended their land
Why does everything have to be so polarized?
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When is the Bible going in a museum?:

And if a man sells his daughter to be a female slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do. If she does not please her master, who has betrothed her to himself, then he shall let her be redeemed. He shall have no right to sell her to a foreign people, since he has dealt deceitfully with her. And if he has betrothed her to his son, he shall deal with her according to the custom of daughters. If he takes another wife, he shall not diminish her food, her clothing, and her marriage rights. And if he does not do these three for her, then she shall go out free, without paying money.
—Exodus 21

There are several more passages on slavery. Everybody needs to chill out.

Our whole economy is based off of dirt cheap foreign labor which is actually slavery since they have no rights, labor laws or standards for working conditions. Their conditions are soo poor in fact, even if we used our prison populations to make goods we still could not get close to what it costs foreign workers. Slavery never went away! This is why China is struggling right now. They tried to increase conditions and wages only to have companies start moving to other markets like Malaysia which is why they fast tracked the trade deal but you won't hear a word about that in the media. Never mind that though, let's talk about flags.
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Old 07-12-2015, 06:31 AM   #17
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IDK, I think they're reaching on this one, .
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IT WAS USED TO BRAND SLAVES IN THE EARLY 1700'S. I doubt that any of those people are even remembered by the people that bring up this foolish racism charge in the first place.

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We can debate this till the end of time, but the truth is removing symbols and flags is not going to change a damn thing. If you want to see change, remove the shallow minded, can't think for themselves idiots from this country. And why the f**k is nothing being done about these losers desecrating the American flag?
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