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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by SapperSaint How many generations of Native Americans were slaughtered under the Stars and Stripes? How many years did slavery sit in the shadow of the Stars and Stripes? For the gabillionth time, the South did not fight ...

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Old 07-16-2015, 03:34 PM   #41
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How many generations of Native Americans were slaughtered under the Stars and Stripes?

How many years did slavery sit in the shadow of the Stars and Stripes?

For the gabillionth time, the South did not fight the civil war for SLAVERY. During the civil war, the North had SLAVES too. (I will not argue this point with anyone. Do some REAL research, other than movies)

The Klan has bastardized the Stars and Bars. They turned it into a symbol of hate.

I had family that faught for the South and the North. I pisses me off to see the KKK using a flag that my family faught under. It degrades what they did. It cheapen's what my family did when a picture of Hank Williams Jr or a 12 point buck or a large mouth bass is put on that flag.

Do I own a "Confederate" flag? No, I don't. But I should the right to own one and fly it if I want too.

I say instead of banning it; why not take ownership in it? Take it back from the KKK, intead of giving them power over it. Stop letting these so called leaders of our Nation divide us.

ps: If this offends you.... get over yourself.

Let the political pandering end here.
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Nobody is arguing your right to own or fly a confederate flag. Are some of you that dense and that uninformed? People are arguing that these flags have no business displayed on government property.
You are allowed to paint a rebel flag on your chest and run down the street if you want. Nobody is going to take that away from you, nor is anyone trying to take that away from you.
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Nobody is arguing your right to own or fly a confederate flag. Are some of you that dense and that uninformed? People are arguing that these flags have no business displayed on government property.
You are allowed to paint a rebel flag on your chest and run down the street if you want. Nobody is going to take that away from you, nor is anyone trying to take that away from you.
Actually, they're trying now to make it a "hate crime" to display a Confederate flag at all. So yes, they're trying to take it away from us.
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Nobody is arguing your right to own or fly a confederate flag. Are some of you that dense and that uninformed? People are arguing that these flags have no business displayed on government property.
You are allowed to paint a rebel flag on your chest and run down the street if you want. Nobody is going to take that away from you, nor is anyone trying to take that away from you.
Well, it hasn't stopped there, nor is it going to stop there...

Walmart, Amazon, Sears, eBay stop selling Confederate flag - CNNPolitics.com

NAACP: Blast Confederate generals off Stone Mountain | AL.com

Confederate Flags Stolen After Social Media Ignites #NoFlagginChallenge - NBC News

And on that last link, someone, at some point, will get their @$$ shot over doing that...
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Well, it hasn't stopped there, nor is it going to stop there...

Walmart, Amazon, Sears, eBay stop selling Confederate flag - CNNPolitics.com

NAACP: Blast Confederate generals off Stone Mountain | AL.com

Confederate Flags Stolen After Social Media Ignites #NoFlagginChallenge - NBC News

And on that last link, someone, at some point, will get their @$$ shot over doing that...
It's their businesses. If they don't want to sell an item it's their prerogative. So you don't want people to tell you not to fly the flag but you want to tell a business what it can and can't sell?
You can buy flags at any number of places and can fly it freely on your property without any repercussion from the law or goverment.
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Old 07-17-2015, 09:36 AM   #46
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If people believe that Southern people were the only ones that had slaves, they can also do some looking into how many were owned by Northern people flying the stars and stripes, is it next? What about the Panther paws or whatever they call it, its symbole of the Black Panthers? Their is plenty of blame to go around when it comes to hatred. Their is no race that has not seen their share of slavery or hate crimes committed. Empires were built that way throughout history.Are all those flags going to be ban also?
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Old 07-18-2015, 08:26 AM   #47
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I will repeat this once again

The Fleur-de-Lis is a "flower of the lily."

The Roman Catholic Church ascribed the lily as the special emblem of the Virgin Mary.

Due to its three "petals," the fleur-de-lis has also been used to represent the Holy Trinity


So it is a religious symbol thus falls under the separation of church and state debate if anything.

the saints are not in that topic.

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Old 07-18-2015, 09:00 AM   #48
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72 S T A T .] PUBLIC LAW 85-426-MAY 23, 1958 133
Public Law 85-424
May 22, 1958

Public Law 85-425
AN ACT
To increase the monthly rates of pension payable to widows and former widows
of deceasetl veterans of the Spanish-American War, Civil War, Indian War,
and Mexican War, and provide i)enslons to widows of veterans who served
in the military or naval forces of the Confederate States of America during
the Civil War.

Be it enacted hy the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America in Congress assembled, That the Veterans'
l:Jenefits Act of 1957 (Public Law 85-56) is amended:

(3) Section 432 is amended by adding at the end thereof the
following new subsection:

"(e) For the purpose of this section, and section 433, the term
'veteran' includes a person who served in the military or naval forces
of the Confederate States of America during the Civil War, and the
term 'active, military or naval service' includes active service in such
forces."

(( CONFEDERATE FORCES VETERANS
"SEC. 410. The Administrator shall pay to each person who served
in the military or naval forces of the Confederate States of America
during the Civil War a monthly pension in the same amounts and
subject to the same conditions as would have been applicable to such


http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/STATUTE...E-72-Pg133.pdf

In short all confederate soldiers were recognized as US military.

then there is this

Public Law 85-811
August 28, 1958 ^^ ^ ^ '^
[S- 3882] To amend the Act of July 1, 1948, chapter 791 (24 U. S. C. 279a), providing for
the procurement and supply of Government headstones and markers.
G o v e r n m e n t
headstones.
Be it enacted hy the Senate and House of Representati'ves of the
United States of America in Congress assenibled, That the first senprocurement,
tence of the
first section of the Act of July 1, 1948, chapter 791 (24
62 Stat. 1215. ^ g Q 279a), is amended to read as follows:

"That the Secretary of the Army is authorized and directed to furnish,
when requested, appropriate Government headstones or markers
at the expense of the ITnited States for the unmarked graves of the
following:
"(1) Soldiers of the Union and Confederate Armies of the Civil
War.
Approved August 28, 1958.


http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/STATUTE...E-72-Pg977.pdf

Both acts were to help in the healing process of this country.

So removal of confederate officers is really the removal of American soldiers.

great example of how a relocation of a flag can lead to breaking of federal laws.

So this confederacy war path needs to go to court. federal laws are being broken and the spirit of heeling a nation in which these laws were passed is unraveling. We are heading back 100 years in race relations in this country not forwards.

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Idea to end debate and make everyone equal.

Everyone should dress alike.
Screw hair styling - require shaving heads.
Homes should become housing with all furnishing the same.
Eliminate individuality and punish for personality.

Cities should be bulldozed.
We need to ensure everyone and everything is equal.
Then no one will suffer from feeling oppressed because we will all be oppressed.
No one offended.

Reminds me of a few things
Does it remind you of anything?
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And on that last link, someone, at some point, will get their @$$ shot over doing that...
Gift wrapped for the masses to show how racist a person was for shooting an innocent thief.
The news channel's are so hopeful that this happens.
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