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saintfan 02-02-2005 09:25 AM

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If it's all Bill or not. Bill Belichick is about to lose both his O and D coordinators...one to Notre Dame and the other, likey to Cleveland. I haven't done the research, but did Parcells ever win a thing without Belichick? Is Billy B about to experience something similar?

saintswhodi 02-02-2005 09:39 AM

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With 3 Superbowl wins in 4 years potentially, I don\'t think he is too worried about it.

saintfan 02-02-2005 09:49 AM

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Perhaps he\'s not, but I wonder. Parcells never won a thing without him. Has Bill Belichick won a thing without Crennel and Weis? Heck, they ran him out of Cleveland a few years ago. Then again, the Cowboys somehow managed to win a SB with Switzer...go figure. LOL

saintswhodi 02-02-2005 09:52 AM

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Switzer was lucky to come in on the end of Jimmy Johnson\'s teams. I am sure Belichek\'s assistants had MUCH to do with his success, but if you listen to the players, it\'s more about them than the coaching. I wouldn\'t be surprised if they rode the wave a couple more years without Weiss and Crennel because of the un-selfish nature of their players who care more about winning than their paychecks.

GumboBC 02-02-2005 09:54 AM

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Like I said in another post.......

There\'s only 2 kind of coaches in the NFL.

Those that have been fired.

Those who will be fired.

If Tom Landry and Chuck Noll were fired.... How safe can Belichick be?

LongTimeFan 02-02-2005 10:36 AM

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I\'m sure B.B is concerned about losing his OC and DC but Bill is the main reason the Pats are sucessful, Bill could be the smartest coach in the NFL, I for one think he understands the game like no other coach in the NFL.
Bottom line: Bill will hire the right people in order to continue winning SB\'s.
Having a Tom Brady on your team doesn\'t hurt either

[Edited on 2/2/2005 by LongTimeFan]

GumboBC 02-02-2005 10:42 AM

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Having a Tom Brady on your team doesn\'t hurt either
Ditto.

I think if you take Brady off that team, they don\'t do nearly as well.

I think Brady is a special player. The likes like we haven\'t seen since Joe Montana.

I\'d take Brady over Peyton Manning. Stats are nice, but Brady comes up much bigger than Peyton when the game is on the line.

Boogro 02-02-2005 11:03 AM

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Brady has to be the most underrated player in all of sports. I\'ve seen him play some and he does the little things so well and his arm is very strong and accurate.

LongTimeFan 02-02-2005 05:52 PM

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If I owned a team Brady would be my first choice , I\'d take him over Manning, McNabb and Brooks, has to be the smartest player in the NFL, doesn\'t have great stats but he does what it takes to win,he pose is the same if it\'s 1st and 10 or 3rd and 15

FireVenturi 02-02-2005 06:48 PM

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Having a Tom Brady on your team doesn\'t hurt either
Ditto.

I think if you take Brady off that team, they don\'t do nearly as well.

I think Brady is a special player. The likes like we haven\'t seen since Joe Montana.

I\'d take Brady over Peyton Manning. Stats are nice, but Brady comes up much bigger than Peyton when the game is on the line.
Wow 100% agreement from me!

Danno 02-02-2005 07:17 PM

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Switch teams and a Manning led Patriot team (with Belicheck) absolutely destroys a Brady led Colts team (with Dungy).
It would be a massacre

D_it_up 02-02-2005 08:36 PM

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From things I\'ve read before, Weis and Crennel are mere students of Bellichek. BB could probably take McCarthy and Venturi and make them look like coordinating greek gods. And I agree Danno.....switch Brady and Manning around and Manning would shred the Colts.

papz 02-02-2005 11:53 PM

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I\'m not so sure Danno... Manning + outdoors + snow = not very good for him.

cardboardboxer 02-03-2005 01:33 AM

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Bill could take Donte and SulliVAN and get them to play the safety position at pro-bowl levels. Well, maybe not the latter. But it doesn\'t matter. His teams win because they play past their talent level. Sure, new people calling the plays might be a small setback; but his team will still play at a high level next year.

That is, as long as Archie\'s boy doesn\'t go making any deals with the devil.

Danno 02-03-2005 06:14 AM

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There\'s only 2 kind of coaches in the NFL.

Those that have been fired.

Those who will be fired.
That is actually a Bum Phillips quote. One of his many gems.

GumboBC 02-03-2005 07:47 AM

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Quote:

Quote:

There\'s only 2 kind of coaches in the NFL.

Those that have been fired.

Those who will be fired.
That is actually a Bum Phillips quote. One of his many gems.
Ahhhhhh... very good Danno. I was wondering if anyone knew that... ;)


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