CCS: 5 Take aways from saints loss

Euphoria · 09-15-2015, 02:32 PM

If anyone wants to things of Cooks as a number 1 WR is a fool. We don't utilize an offense with a clear #1 WR. You get open when your number is called period. They even it out... you make a play when you are called.

I think Cooks is a deep threat and needs to be just that. He doesn't need to be a number one nor should we expect him to be. I don't see him as a possession WR even. We need him going for the shots that we take deep down field.

Rugby Saint II · 09-15-2015, 03:45 PM

We could work on our run blocking off the line.

RaginCajun83 · 09-15-2015, 04:35 PM

1. Saints suck
2. defense sucks
3. WRs suck
4. play calling sucks
5. 5-11 sounds about right

Utah_Saint · 09-15-2015, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

If anyone wants to things of Cooks as a number 1 WR is a fool. We don't utilize an offense with a clear #1 WR. You get open when your number is called period. They even it out... you make a play when you are called.

I think Cooks is a deep threat and needs to be just that. He doesn't need to be a number one nor should we expect him to be. I don't see him as a possession WR even. We need him going for the shots that we take deep down field.

I'm surprised he hasn't been used more often down field. Payton used to love to streak Devry and Meach down the field almost every other play. It keeps the safeties honest and if the defense has a miscue it's a touchdown. I figured Cooks was going to be used more in that capacity. Too bad Stills didn't work out.

hagan714 · 09-15-2015, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

I'm surprised he hasn't been used more often down field. Payton used to love to streak Devry and Meach down the field almost every other play. It keeps the safeties honest and if the defense has a miscue it's a touchdown. I figured Cooks was going to be used more in that capacity. Too bad Stills didn't work out.

I am waiting on Spiller to return then we will have a better idea of what Cook will do as a WR.

It all rest on Spiller. I am betting the Atlanta game is the must game target for his return.

pherein · 09-15-2015, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

I am waiting on Spiller to return then we will have a better idea of what Cook will do as a WR.

It all rest on Spiller. I am betting the Atlanta game is the must game target for his return.

Yeah spiller is going to make a huge impact. Hes alot better than people think. A born natural runner. Its why SP is treating him with kid gloves I think, he knows he is great. He just needed a good team and OL to explode. Really amazing what he did on a crap team like Bills.

blackangold · 09-15-2015, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by pherein

Yeah spiller is going to make a huge impact. Hes alot better than people think. A born natural runner. Its why SP is treating him with kid gloves I think, he knows he is great. He just needed a good team and OL to explode. Really amazing what he did on a crap team like Bills.

He might walk on water but if he's made of glass it won't matter.

Cruize · 09-15-2015, 05:37 PM

-The punt was a horrible decision. Go down swinging with Drew. If you can't get 6 yards, you might as well pack it in. He lost last years team and I just don't see improvement.
-Cooks is a really good player. Injuries cut shot his rookie season and game 1 of season 2 he was almost invisible. I personally never see him as a #1 WR in the NFL.
-The Saints have some good young talent on defense. Not a fan of the coaching. And, they lack a dynamic player at any position. The "No Name" defense will never happen again in the current NFL where the rules strongly favors the offense. A great like Ronnie Lott wouldn't last in today's league. The safeties aren't allowed to hit anybody.
-The RB's will get more chances to catch the ball than run it in Payton's offense. No surprise there.
-It is it for Colston. Can't separate at all. Takes too many hits when he does catch it. Great Saint. Should go in the ring of fame while he's still playing.

Danno · 09-15-2015, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83

1. Saints suck
2. defense sucks
3. WRs suck
4. play calling sucks
5. 5-11 sounds about right

Good grief, seriously?

After 1 game, on the road, against a Superbowl contender?

Wow.

pherein · 09-15-2015, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

He might walk on water but if he's made of glass it won't matter.

Hes the best runner we have ever had I think, but your right if he gets hurt alot wont matter.
The thing to remember though is Bills have had one of the worse OL in the NFL for years, so its expected that he is going to take huge hits all day. He will take less hits here. He ran on a very tough to nearly imposible team to run with.

09-15-2015, 02:32 PM	#21
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: CCS: 5 Take aways from saints loss If anyone wants to things of Cooks as a number 1 WR is a fool. We don't utilize an offense with a clear #1 WR. You get open when your number is called period. They even it out... you make a play when you are called. I think Cooks is a deep threat and needs to be just that. He doesn't need to be a number one nor should we expect him to be. I don't see him as a possession WR even. We need him going for the shots that we take deep down field. hagan714 and Utah_Saint like this.

09-15-2015, 03:45 PM	#22
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,718	Re: CCS: 5 Take aways from saints loss We could work on our run blocking off the line. pherein likes this.

09-15-2015, 04:35 PM	#23
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: CCS: 5 Take aways from saints loss 1. Saints suck 2. defense sucks 3. WRs suck 4. play calling sucks 5. 5-11 sounds about right

09-15-2015, 04:47 PM	#24
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: CCS: 5 Take aways from saints loss Originally Posted by Euphoria If anyone wants to things of Cooks as a number 1 WR is a fool. We don't utilize an offense with a clear #1 WR. You get open when your number is called period. They even it out... you make a play when you are called. I think Cooks is a deep threat and needs to be just that. He doesn't need to be a number one nor should we expect him to be. I don't see him as a possession WR even. We need him going for the shots that we take deep down field. I'm surprised he hasn't been used more often down field. Payton used to love to streak Devry and Meach down the field almost every other play. It keeps the safeties honest and if the defense has a miscue it's a touchdown. I figured Cooks was going to be used more in that capacity. Too bad Stills didn't work out. hagan714 likes this.

09-15-2015, 04:53 PM	#25
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: CCS: 5 Take aways from saints loss Originally Posted by Utah_Saint I'm surprised he hasn't been used more often down field. Payton used to love to streak Devry and Meach down the field almost every other play. It keeps the safeties honest and if the defense has a miscue it's a touchdown. I figured Cooks was going to be used more in that capacity. Too bad Stills didn't work out. I am waiting on Spiller to return then we will have a better idea of what Cook will do as a WR. It all rest on Spiller. I am betting the Atlanta game is the must game target for his return. pherein likes this.

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09-15-2015, 05:13 PM	#26
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Re: CCS: 5 Take aways from saints loss Originally Posted by hagan714 I am waiting on Spiller to return then we will have a better idea of what Cook will do as a WR. It all rest on Spiller. I am betting the Atlanta game is the must game target for his return. Yeah spiller is going to make a huge impact. Hes alot better than people think. A born natural runner. Its why SP is treating him with kid gloves I think, he knows he is great. He just needed a good team and OL to explode. Really amazing what he did on a crap team like Bills.
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09-15-2015, 05:29 PM	#27
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: CCS: 5 Take aways from saints loss Originally Posted by pherein Yeah spiller is going to make a huge impact. Hes alot better than people think. A born natural runner. Its why SP is treating him with kid gloves I think, he knows he is great. He just needed a good team and OL to explode. Really amazing what he did on a crap team like Bills. He might walk on water but if he's made of glass it won't matter. Rugby Saint II likes this.

09-15-2015, 05:37 PM	#28
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,294	Re: CCS: 5 Take aways from saints loss -The punt was a horrible decision. Go down swinging with Drew. If you can't get 6 yards, you might as well pack it in. He lost last years team and I just don't see improvement. -Cooks is a really good player. Injuries cut shot his rookie season and game 1 of season 2 he was almost invisible. I personally never see him as a #1 WR in the NFL. -The Saints have some good young talent on defense. Not a fan of the coaching. And, they lack a dynamic player at any position. The "No Name" defense will never happen again in the current NFL where the rules strongly favors the offense. A great like Ronnie Lott wouldn't last in today's league. The safeties aren't allowed to hit anybody. -The RB's will get more chances to catch the ball than run it in Payton's offense. No surprise there. -It is it for Colston. Can't separate at all. Takes too many hits when he does catch it. Great Saint. Should go in the ring of fame while he's still playing.
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09-15-2015, 06:13 PM	#29
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: CCS: 5 Take aways from saints loss Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 1. Saints suck 2. defense sucks 3. WRs suck 4. play calling sucks 5. 5-11 sounds about right Good grief, seriously? After 1 game, on the road, against a Superbowl contender? Wow.

09-15-2015, 06:19 PM	#30
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Re: CCS: 5 Take aways from saints loss Originally Posted by blackangold He might walk on water but if he's made of glass it won't matter. Hes the best runner we have ever had I think, but your right if he gets hurt alot wont matter. The thing to remember though is Bills have had one of the worse OL in the NFL for years, so its expected that he is going to take huge hits all day. He will take less hits here. He ran on a very tough to nearly imposible team to run with.

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