In my opinion week 2 will show our season

WW_Who_Dat · 09-15-2015, 11:16 AM

Watched several games this weekend to include the Saints ... What I saw by way of comparison was not encouraging ... Rams Philly Falcons 49'ers they all play at a different speed both on offense and defense ... In particular our compared to our offense, our offense is just playing to slow even with Cooks ... The opposing defense is in the play before we are ... No separation on short or long routes they are defended as though the defense knows not only the route trees but the actual calls before the snap ...

Our defense I think has some potential in the LB's and CB's ... The DLine is just plain bad, again slow no pressure, no tackles on running plays ... If we can not speed up to the matchup with competition it will be a long slow frustrating season.

K Major · 09-15-2015, 12:11 PM

Did my very own scouting (taped game/watched reply) on the Bucs

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If we don't punish them by at least 17 points, I'd be really surprised. Their offense is predictable, and that defense I saw was AWFUL. Jameis appears to be a turnover machine on any given play. At times, he was throwing the ball as if he was still at Fl. State. The Bucs got major issues in all phases of the game right now. I understand this is a division rival and they are never easy however this game will be the exception. I would like to see a blitz or two from the Big Lebowski & also insert Murphy on third and short packages. Expect Breaux, Swann, K Sizzle (Kikaha) and/or Swann to have a nice game.

R E L A X - Saints should roll easy

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blackangold · 09-15-2015, 12:28 PM

I don't think you can actually judge any team until after week 4.
Some teams are still in preseason mode in week 1.

Look at the slow starts two of the best teams (and SB champs) got off to last year.

NE starts off slow and people are saying they're done and the Belicheat era is over yet they win the whole thing.

GB starts off slow and Rogers has to go on radio shows telling people to relax, they end up as arguably the best team in the NFC (if not for some bum plays).

The fact is it's not only too early to judge the Saints, it's also too early to judge the Bucs.

Mardigras9 · 09-15-2015, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

A win tells us nothing other than we're 1-1.

A loss however tells us we aren't the 10 or 11 win team we were hoping for.

Agreed, If Tenn puts 40+ on them, in their own house, and it's the season home opener in NO, I would think this game shouldn't even be close. If it is close, I think alarms should sound moving forward.

Xandtar · 09-15-2015, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Did my very own scouting (taped game/watched reply) on the Bucs ...

If we don't punish them by at least 17 points, I'd be really surprised. Their offense is predictable, and that defense I saw was AWFUL. Jameis appears to be a turnover machine on any given play. At times, he was throwing the ball as if he was still at Fl. State. The Bucs got major issues in all phases of the game right now. I understand this is a division rival and they are never easy however this game will be the exception. I would like to see a blitz or two from the Big Lebowski & also insert Murphy on third and short packages. Expect Breaux, Swann, K Sizzle (Kikaha) and/or Swann to have a nice game.

R E L A X - Saints should roll easy .

He's probably right. My Bucs looked terrible out there, and it was on the coaching as much as the players. The defense basically gave up when it hit 21 points and as bad as Jameis played, if he'd done better they could have kept Mariota in the fourth and matched the Bucs TD for TD. The HC was sending in defensive plays to his rookie middle linebacker and he called a terrible defensive game. Kwon's good but he's not a captain yet so overruling the coach all the time isn't going to happen.

If the defense continues to play like that Winston could be the offensive player of the week next week and you'll still win the game. If there is any silver lining it is precisely that you are at home next Sunday against a team with less talent and who are more shell-shocked at what happened week 1 than your boys.

That said, go Bucs!

Euphoria · 09-15-2015, 02:43 PM

Bucs looked horrible until they play the Saints... lol.

arsaint · 09-15-2015, 03:00 PM

I said before the season I think we win this one unconvincingly.

I'll stick with that. I think we start turning heads in 2nd half of season after these rookies get some experience.

4-4 at midpoint
7-1 to finish season

lumm0x · 09-15-2015, 03:25 PM

There is no thing as an easy division game.

But I totally agree with Mighty. This game tells me nothing good no matter what. If we lose I am extremely worried about our season. If we win, no matter how big, it is against a team I have very little opinion of. We should win easily but I have come to understand that any divisional opponent can play like the best team in the league against us and be horrible for everyone else. I won't be able to form an opinion regardless of the outcome of this one.

SaintsBro · 09-15-2015, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by arsaint

4-4 at midpoint
7-1 to finish season

I would like to believe that, I really would....but the Saints have not had a strong second half of the season like that, the kind where they put together a commanding string of November/December wins, since back in 2011....which is a real loooong time ago now. Ever since Payton came back from his suspension, the late parts of the season have all been drip, drip, drip, drip -- win, lose, lose, win, lose -- dropping games left and right, not dominant at all....I mean I'd love to see it happening the way you predict, with them catching fire or running the table or putting together a run, or whatever. But it goes completely against what the team has actually been really like, in recent years at the end of the season....hasn't been like that in a while.

Rugby Saint II · 09-15-2015, 03:50 PM

If you believe Payton then he will clean up the little things. Personally, I believe him.

09-15-2015, 11:16 AM	#11
WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,163 Blog Entries: 1	Re: In my opinion week 2 will show our season Watched several games this weekend to include the Saints ... What I saw by way of comparison was not encouraging ... Rams Philly Falcons 49'ers they all play at a different speed both on offense and defense ... In particular our compared to our offense, our offense is just playing to slow even with Cooks ... The opposing defense is in the play before we are ... No separation on short or long routes they are defended as though the defense knows not only the route trees but the actual calls before the snap ... Our defense I think has some potential in the LB's and CB's ... The DLine is just plain bad, again slow no pressure, no tackles on running plays ... If we can not speed up to the matchup with competition it will be a long slow frustrating season. pherein likes this.

09-15-2015, 12:11 PM	#12
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,018 Blog Entries: 3	Re: In my opinion week 2 will show our season Did my very own scouting (taped game/watched reply) on the Bucs ... If we don't punish them by at least 17 points, I'd be really surprised. Their offense is predictable, and that defense I saw was AWFUL. Jameis appears to be a turnover machine on any given play. At times, he was throwing the ball as if he was still at Fl. State. The Bucs got major issues in all phases of the game right now. I understand this is a division rival and they are never easy however this game will be the exception. I would like to see a blitz or two from the Big Lebowski & also insert Murphy on third and short packages. Expect Breaux, Swann, K Sizzle (Kikaha) and/or Swann to have a nice game. R E L A X - Saints should roll easy .
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09-15-2015, 12:28 PM	#13
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: In my opinion week 2 will show our season I don't think you can actually judge any team until after week 4. Some teams are still in preseason mode in week 1. Look at the slow starts two of the best teams (and SB champs) got off to last year. NE starts off slow and people are saying they're done and the Belicheat era is over yet they win the whole thing. GB starts off slow and Rogers has to go on radio shows telling people to relax, they end up as arguably the best team in the NFC (if not for some bum plays). The fact is it's not only too early to judge the Saints, it's also too early to judge the Bucs. Danno and Euphoria like this.

09-15-2015, 12:53 PM	#14
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: In my opinion week 2 will show our season Originally Posted by Danno A win tells us nothing other than we're 1-1. A loss however tells us we aren't the 10 or 11 win team we were hoping for. Agreed, If Tenn puts 40+ on them, in their own house, and it's the season home opener in NO, I would think this game shouldn't even be close. If it is close, I think alarms should sound moving forward.

09-15-2015, 02:31 PM	#15
Xandtar Bucs fan Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: The West Indies Posts: 23	Re: In my opinion week 2 will show our season Originally Posted by K Major Did my very own scouting (taped game/watched reply) on the Bucs ... If we don't punish them by at least 17 points, I'd be really surprised. Their offense is predictable, and that defense I saw was AWFUL. Jameis appears to be a turnover machine on any given play. At times, he was throwing the ball as if he was still at Fl. State. The Bucs got major issues in all phases of the game right now. I understand this is a division rival and they are never easy however this game will be the exception. I would like to see a blitz or two from the Big Lebowski & also insert Murphy on third and short packages. Expect Breaux, Swann, K Sizzle (Kikaha) and/or Swann to have a nice game. R E L A X - Saints should roll easy . He's probably right. My Bucs looked terrible out there, and it was on the coaching as much as the players. The defense basically gave up when it hit 21 points and as bad as Jameis played, if he'd done better they could have kept Mariota in the fourth and matched the Bucs TD for TD. The HC was sending in defensive plays to his rookie middle linebacker and he called a terrible defensive game. Kwon's good but he's not a captain yet so overruling the coach all the time isn't going to happen. If the defense continues to play like that Winston could be the offensive player of the week next week and you'll still win the game. If there is any silver lining it is precisely that you are at home next Sunday against a team with less talent and who are more shell-shocked at what happened week 1 than your boys. That said, go Bucs! Rugby Saint II likes this.

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09-15-2015, 02:43 PM	#16
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arsaint Saint Historian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker, somewhere under the brick & steel of a nondescript building.. Posts: 2,623	Re: In my opinion week 2 will show our season I said before the season I think we win this one unconvincingly. I'll stick with that. I think we start turning heads in 2nd half of season after these rookies get some experience. 4-4 at midpoint 7-1 to finish season saintfan likes this.

09-15-2015, 03:25 PM	#18
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Re: In my opinion week 2 will show our season There is no thing as an easy division game. But I totally agree with Mighty. This game tells me nothing good no matter what. If we lose I am extremely worried about our season. If we win, no matter how big, it is against a team I have very little opinion of. We should win easily but I have come to understand that any divisional opponent can play like the best team in the league against us and be horrible for everyone else. I won't be able to form an opinion regardless of the outcome of this one.

09-15-2015, 03:26 PM	#19
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: In my opinion week 2 will show our season Originally Posted by arsaint 4-4 at midpoint 7-1 to finish season I would like to believe that, I really would....but the Saints have not had a strong second half of the season like that, the kind where they put together a commanding string of November/December wins, since back in 2011....which is a real loooong time ago now. Ever since Payton came back from his suspension, the late parts of the season have all been drip, drip, drip, drip -- win, lose, lose, win, lose -- dropping games left and right, not dominant at all....I mean I'd love to see it happening the way you predict, with them catching fire or running the table or putting together a run, or whatever. But it goes completely against what the team has actually been really like, in recent years at the end of the season....hasn't been like that in a while.

09-15-2015, 03:50 PM	#20
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,718	Re: In my opinion week 2 will show our season If you believe Payton then he will clean up the little things. Personally, I believe him.

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