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brees84 09-27-2015 03:45 PM

Bench Browner
 
I've seen enough. Penalties, slow as ****, looks lost on the field...

dizzle88 09-27-2015 03:46 PM

Re: Bench Browner
 
Cut Browner

Swann is already a 1000 times better than him

CharityMike 09-27-2015 03:47 PM

Re: Bench Browner
 
As soon as Lewis is back, he needs to be on the bench. He is total garbage.

Cruize 09-27-2015 03:50 PM

Re: Bench Browner
 
Trade him. Cut him. Swann absolutely should start.

spkb25 09-27-2015 03:52 PM

Re: Bench Browner
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 671271)
As soon as Lewis is back, he needs to be on the bench. He is total garbage.

yeah i said all game, lewis, swann, breaux

brees84 09-27-2015 03:56 PM

Re: Bench Browner
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 671282)
Trade him. Cut him. Swann absolutely should start.

Oh, man. That contract:

dead cap:

2015 7,75m
2016 5,35m
2017 1,3m

AllSaints 09-27-2015 08:15 PM

Re: Bench Browner
 
I thought when we signed him we would be playing that press coverage.... I saw browner 15 yards off the line of scrimmage all day....

ChrisXVI 09-27-2015 08:18 PM

Re: Bench Browner
 
In all fairness, Browner was never supposed to be our #1 CB... Let alone have our #3 FS playing behind him. I agree he sucks in his current role, but he's a victim of circumstance.

westbankdaze 09-27-2015 08:43 PM

Re: Bench Browner
 
Browner got paid then checked out. Always happens with any vet we sign.

NOLA54 09-27-2015 09:28 PM

Re: Bench Browner
 
Browner looking like s**t. Byrd not playing. How many more reasons do we need to fire Loomis?

WHODATINCA 09-27-2015 10:09 PM

Re: Bench Browner
 
Browner is not doing his job. And this team has been played by a bunch of bench-warmers looking for their payday. Sad.

jonnyrotten 09-27-2015 11:10 PM

Re: Bench Browner
 
I am on the Browner sucks bandwagon. #brutal"coverage"

blackangold 09-27-2015 11:27 PM

Re: Bench Browner
 
Browner looks like hot **** out there but I will say playing off coverage and zone schemes which ryan loves isnt working for browner... hasnt really worked for anyone. Im in favor of firing ryan before benching browner.

Ashley 09-28-2015 06:22 AM

Re: Bench Browner
 
Plenty of blame to go around. Head coach, gm, staff, players.
O-2 division, 0-3 in the conference. This can totally slip out of reach really soon.
But back to the statement above.... bench him

exile 09-28-2015 09:48 AM

Re: Bench Browner
 
What exactly was Browner doing watching that TE run past him? Honestly, I will take half of his salary to do that.

Mardigras9 09-28-2015 10:10 AM

Re: Bench Browner
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NOLA54 (Post 671466)
Byrd not playing.

Yeah, heard a good one on WWl this morning, Loch Ness Byrd.

K Major 09-28-2015 11:07 AM

Re: Bench Browner
 
Brandon has been hot garbage the last 3 weeks. Put him in the slot & let him mug the WR within the 5 yard threshold. I'd rather have Swann on the island.

leilung 09-28-2015 11:26 AM

Re: Bench Browner
 
Browner is out of position playing press cover. Sorta like using a butter knife instead of a screw driver. It may eventually get the job done, but it ain't pretty and it ain't efficient!

Budsdrinker 09-28-2015 12:18 PM

Re: Bench Browner
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by leilung (Post 671607)
Browner is out of position playing press cover. Sorta like using a butter knife instead of a screw driver. It may eventually get the job done, but it ain't pretty and it ain't efficient!

No actually that is where Browner excels is in press coverage. He needs to jam the receiver at the line to throw off timing with safety help on the back end. Problem is when you need to use a safety to create a pass rush which still isn't working you end up with a badly beat Browner with no help.

CharityMike 09-28-2015 01:13 PM

Re: Bench Browner
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx (Post 671623)
browner isn't the problem. the best gets burnt. defense gonna get scored on. what you basically want the defense to do in today's football is give you the opp to win games and that's what our defense has done thus far. three straight weeks we had the ball with time and time outs to create drives, score a td and win the game. in Arizona we had an opportunity, and in the bucs game oh my lawd how many times you sat there saying only if we turned at least two of those fg's to td's and drew wouldn't have thrown that pick we could have won the game? yesterday is no different we're just not finishing strong.

While I don't disagree with even the best players have bad days, but Browner has been junk thus far and I don't totally blame him. His 1 and only strength is his ability to jam a receiver and re route them. I blame the crap scheme of RR which is why he needs to go. By putting Browner in zone you are just asking for trouble and yesterday was exhibit A.

vpheughan 09-28-2015 01:24 PM

Re: Bench Browner
 
Tebow wouldn't have been out of position!!!!

blackangold 09-28-2015 01:35 PM

Re: Bench Browner
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 671634)
While I don't disagree with even the best players have bad days, but Browner has been junk thus far and I don't totally blame him. His 1 and only strength is his ability to jam a receiver and re route them. I blame the crap scheme of RR which is why he needs to go. By putting Browner in zone you are just asking for trouble and yesterday was exhibit A.

He played well against AZ, and outside of 1 bad play on a deep ball in the TB game he wasn't bad. However, he looked like hot **** against CAR...

UK_WhoDat 09-28-2015 02:59 PM

Re: Bench Browner
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by exile (Post 671587)
What exactly was Browner doing watching that TE run past him? Honestly, I will take half of his salary to do that.

You are outbid Sir. A whole load of Saints fans pay to watch it

ChrisXVI 09-28-2015 03:40 PM

Re: Bench Browner
 
Keenan Lewis, Delvin Breaux and Damian Swann are gonna make for an awesome CB group though once Browner is out of the picture.

WillSaints81 09-28-2015 05:30 PM

Re: Bench Browner
 
you think SP is gonna have Browner sit when he was paid all that money? No. It won't happen.

st thomas 09-28-2015 05:41 PM

Re: Bench Browner
 
he has checked out, cashed it in and can hardly wait 3 years to retire. thar guy has no business on the field he is in don't get hurt just play dumb mode like a few has done before. tillman still has heart.

The Dude 09-28-2015 07:35 PM

Re: Bench Browner
 
Newton literally had all day to throw. You can put any DB back there and if the D line isnt getting pressure they are going to get torched every time.

Beastmode 09-28-2015 08:06 PM

Re: Bench Browner
 
Seeing more and more of Payton in Ryan's face. I think he's on thin ice. If it continues he will be gone mid season. They looked lost.

WhoDat!656 09-28-2015 08:22 PM

Re: Bench Browner
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 671730)
Seeing more and more of Payton in Ryan's face. I think he's on thin ice. If it continues he will be gone mid season. They looked lost.

Unless the defense wins a few games, IMO Ryan will be fired by the bye week, if not sooner.

nola_swammi 09-28-2015 09:00 PM

Re: Bench Browner
 
You would think Browner was the rookie or 1st year player. Breaux is seldom tested. Swann a rookie been tried at but with no or little success. By my assessment Browner need to play up on the wr (man to man) with a safety over the top or lb/safety to prevent a slant. He can not be left on a island. Browner kryptonite is the slugo (slant and go) Rex Ryan need to know what his player weakness and strength and play to it. Kikaha don't need to be dropping in pass coverage 10 or 15 % of time, The linebacker need to be less predictable if they're going to rush or drop in zones. The talent is there but the position coaches are not

I tried to wait for my 1000 post to be after a win :(

voodooido 09-29-2015 08:41 AM

Re: Bench Browner
 
When Lewis returns Browner will be benched I'm sure of it. He would be our #4 CB at that point.

FinSaint 09-29-2015 09:41 AM

Re: Bench Browner
 
I don't think he's been as bad as many of you think - the Carolina game wasn't good, but I liked the one play where he caught the receiver from behind and lunged for a successful tackle. At least that play showed he wasn't willing to give up on the play, otherwise it would've been a TD.

Browner is supposedly a locker-room leader, so while the current state of the team might suggest that he isn't doing a good at leading - the young team around him desperately need veteran leadership.

Rugby Saint II 09-29-2015 01:13 PM

Re: Bench Browner
 
It's all about the coaching...............Browner is not being played to the old mans strengths. Press baby!!!


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