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Old 09-28-2015, 03:39 PM   #21
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Re: Please get off of Brees

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Old 09-28-2015, 04:06 PM   #22
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We can't win without him.
However the big question is: can we win with him? We do have a number of issues that probably cannot be overcome by any great QB.
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Old 09-28-2015, 07:21 PM   #23
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What was his excuse against Arizona?
Perhaps playing against arguably the best team in the NFC at their home? So far he is one of possibly 12 different QB's that will lose to the Cards this season.
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Old 09-28-2015, 07:29 PM   #24
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Then why the hell did we draft Grayson?
My opinion is that he'll be an above average QB, in about 2 or 3 years, when Drew Brees starts his father time decline.
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Old 09-28-2015, 07:36 PM   #25
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Trade for Colt McCoy from the redskins, basically a Brees clone that needs time, and have Brees work him in before retirement.
Like Im right about Spiller Im right about this kid. he would kick butt in our offense. No QB did well on the Browns.

McCoy weighs in at 216 pounds according to the Browns' site.

Brees is 209 pounds according to the Saints' site.

Some of the doubters have said that McCoy may not be able to take a beating in the NFL, but at his current weight there is no reason that he cannot take a beating, especially if Brees, who weighs in a bit lighter, can take it.

Just another example of the doubters fishing for any excuse they can find.

McCoy is the winningest quarterback in the NCAA's history, and his stats are better than those of Brees when he was in college at Purdue. This could be a result of better players at Texas with McCoy, but the point is that both had good college careers, and Brees has been able to transition to the NFL successfully.

Brees's Purdue stats: 11,792 yards, 61-percent completion percentage, 90 touchdowns

McCoy's Texas stats: 13,253 yards, 70-percent completion percentage, 112 touchdowns

Both Brees and McCoy were Heisman Finalists two times each.

McCoy was a finalist in 2008 and 2009.

Brees was a finalist in 1999 and 2000.

Both McCoy and Brees won similar awards at the college level, including both the Maxwell Award for most outstanding college player and the Davey O'Brien Award for the nation's top quarterback.

Brees won the Maxwell in 2000 and the O'Brien in 1999.

McCoy won both the Maxwell and O'Brien in 2009.

Brees has been known for his high football intelligence, and McCoy has said to have a high football IQ as well.

Back in 2000 Brees, along with one other player (Kyle Vanden Bosch), was named to the National Scholar Athletes list in its second year of naming college athletes.

McCoy was named to the National Scholar Athlete list in 2009 alongside other notables like Tim Tebow and Eric Decker.

It is well-known (or should be by now) that McCoy has looked up to Brees and that Brees was one of his idols while he was growing up and playing at Texas.

Brees even reached out to McCoy while he was at Texas to give him advice, tips, and whatever else mentors give to their fans and pupils.

Brees is a class act, and since McCoy has followed Brees closely and has been a fan, his career could closely mirror that of Brees'.

This also is speculation, but the key to success in McCoy's case is not only the advice he has already received from Brees while in college, but also the fact that Holmgren has decades of quarterbacking knowledge to share with McCoy.

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Old 09-28-2015, 08:08 PM   #26
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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 View Post
What was his excuse against Arizona?
If his receivers weren't dropping everything that hit their hands he wouldn't need one. Go back and watch that game. It was one of the worst performances by a group of WRs that you'll ever see.
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If his receivers weren't dropping everything that hit their hands he wouldn't need one. Go back and watch that game. It was one of the worst performances by a group of WRs that you'll ever see.
They drop them with Brees also, your right. WR coach is sucking
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It really is getting old. This man has done nothing but played his heart our for us. Won us a Super Bowl! A Super Bowl! He is not done. He is HURT! Now I don't know what to say about 0-3 at the moment. But it is not on Brees.

Hope you guys have a good week!
Yea he played his heart out and got us a SB. I want another one, with or without Brees. Im not just going to go on hoping we keep him even when he cant play just as a thank you for a ring we got 7 years ago.
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Old 09-28-2015, 09:32 PM   #29
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I see my post didn't go through regarding franchise QBs. But it has not been once every three years. Today franchise qbs are coming out more and more. You just have to be smart enough to know one that runs a lot isn't one unless it's Wilson. Cook this year, last year Mariotta(he went toe to toe with Luck), the year before Carr(the others was a partyboy, and a bunch of primarily running QBs including him), the year before was a joke year and we knew about that beforehand(no name draft), the year before was Luck and Wilson, the year before that was Newton(franchise for their team but he's not great) and Dalton, the year before were QBs from system offenses(Tebow, McCoy, Bradford). But QBs now are more prepared than ever.
I dont think so, teams are not willing to develop QB's anymore. Brees didnt do well 2-3 years in SD. Your not seening that anymore. They want an instant super star with bad coaches. Luck looks awful because of coaching, 49ers lost a SB switching to trendy kaepernick and dumping Alex Smith, a good pocket passer.
Its always Brady, Rogers, Brees, Manning, and etc..
All given a chance with good coaches.
Running QB's like Cam are ridiculous, they never amount to anything or last. Like RG3, they have no football intelligence or great passing, pocket presence. Look at Cam's #'s and passer rating , its laughable.
Coaches need to take guys that have pocket presence, very accurate, leadership, and high football intellegence like they did Rogers, and teach them the game.
McCoy is one that can be developed in the right system to be great, but probably never will be. because there are not that many good coaches anymore.
But, I am not seeing more and more elite QB's comming out, accually Im seeing less and more bust QB's, and the old dominate QB's hardly being challenged.
Unfornunaty the days of developing a Starbuck, Brady, Brees, Rogers, Bradshaw, and etc are comming to a close, because coaches want fast wins.
and the idiot running QB's are filling up most of college teams.
Pocket passer will always beat a running QB, that will never change.
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Old 09-28-2015, 11:14 PM   #30
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Yea he played his heart out and got us a SB. I want another one, with or without Brees. Im not just going to go on hoping we keep him even when he cant play just as a thank you for a ring we got 7 years ago.
yeah, we'll do a lot better with our a HoF QB. We'll find another one, no problem. They're a dime a dozen these days.
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