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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by saintfan When he's man enough to state his opinion in the open (and not delete it immediately after like a spineless punk) you let me know. 'Til then he's a gutless punk. So he has to temper ...

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Old 10-02-2015, 02:12 PM   #41
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When he's man enough to state his opinion in the open (and not delete it immediately after like a spineless punk) you let me know. 'Til then he's a gutless punk.
So he has to temper his remarks based on your assertion of GUTLESS?? He didn't demand to leave the Saints, he was traded in a manner that some would consider gutless. Keep telling yourself we are a better team without Graham.... Repeat it 5 times a day as you click your heels and sip your Abita.
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Old 10-02-2015, 02:19 PM   #42
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You don't think coach and GM are getting bashed as hard? You haven't been paying attention to anything if you believe that. Jimmy doesn't have to like the move. You don't make disparaging remarks publicly about your former team, if you're any kind of an adult.

The Saints found this guy and gave him a shot. Drew (when he was healthy and at his best) made Jimmy into what he is. How's he looking in Seattle, so far? Who gave him all that money? We traded him to fill other holes. Did our team do a good job of filling holes, and replacing the weapons we've lost? Not so far, and that has been the cause of much bashing.

But if the Saints had no regard for Jimmy they would never have paid him. No excuse for him to show such disrespect all while his Seahawks are off to a prolific 1-2 start.

I'm no fan of the Seahawks but I'd dare say they right their ship and sail deep into the playoffs. You sound as if it was Graham's fault that Loomis agreed to that contract. I would wager that Graham's former Saints team mates don't have an issue with what he posted or think it was disrespectful.

We are what our current record says we are.
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Old 10-02-2015, 02:25 PM   #43
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We are 0 - 3 going on 0 - 16, why obsess over a player who isn't here?

Speaking of Reggie Bush and Meachem..........
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Old 10-02-2015, 03:37 PM   #45
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Originally Posted by Tony180a View Post
So he has to temper his remarks based on your assertion of GUTLESS?? He didn't demand to leave the Saints, he was traded in a manner that some would consider gutless. Keep telling yourself we are a better team without Graham.... Repeat it 5 times a day as you click your heels and sip your Abita.
Yes. He has to temper his remarks - or he should. Either way the man that he is (not) he (a) didn't and (b) punked out and deleted his comments. He was traded. That was business. Seems Jimmy has some growing up yet to do, both on and off the field.
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This is dirty laundry, and im not interested.

Like my ex wife, JG gave us some good years.
I've said stupid things before.
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Old 10-02-2015, 08:37 PM   #47
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This is dirty laundry, and im not interested.

Like my ex wife, JG gave us some good years.
I've said stupid things before.
Me too, and I own them. ALL of them. And that's the difference between me and Jimmy I guess. I thank my Grandpa for that. I wonder who Jimmy blames?
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Originally Posted by Tony180a View Post
I'm no fan of the Seahawks but I'd dare say they right their ship and sail deep into the playoffs. You sound as if it was Graham's fault that Loomis agreed to that contract. I would wager that Graham's former Saints team mates don't have an issue with what he posted or think it was disrespectful.

We are what our current record says we are.
I sound as if it were Graham's fault that Loomis agreed to the contract? In what way do I sound that way? I said if the Saints had no regard for him they would not have given him that contract. That wasn't clear enough? And if you want to talk about blame, why did Jimmy sign if he hated it here so much? It's because he didn't hate the Saints until, Apparently, now after he got traded.

I saw you tell someone that the trade could be viewed as gutless. How is that possible? There are a lot of gutless things I could point to, from players to coaches, but that trade isn't one of them. We went 7-9 WITH him last year. Was it his fault? No, though his amazing ability to disappear in big games didn't help. The point is that we needed more assets and trading Jimmy afforded that opportunity. That's not an easy decision to make. But you say gutless? You might want to rethink that statement.

We're not a very good team right now, but Jimmy being gone isn't why. Drew can't throw the ball more than 15 yards with any accuracy or zip, we have a crappy offensive line, a leaky defense and a dearth of talent at WR. Jimmy would be getting double covered and throwing up alligator arms in traffic.

And finally, if the Saints players don't find it disrespectful that a former player is talking crap about them, then they have no pride and can jolly well follow him out the door. Jimmy is asserting that we suck. Do we suck right now? Yeah. If you've read this board you would know that isn't exactly in question. But those guys didn't do anything to him, and he's talking garbage after he's gone. That's what's gutless.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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grahm is really saying I want to come home wan, wan wan , keep pouting jimmy, payton and brees made u and u can't survive without them, ur reverse sociology don't shine in nola. go fly ur lil 182 over those mountains.
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And finally, if the Saints players don't find it disrespectful that a former player is talking crap about them, then they have no pride and can jolly well follow him out the door. .
Careful what you ask for... using your logic we'd have a hard time filling a game day roster. Yes I said GUTLESS and what else can you call a trade that caught everyone including Brees by surprise. Drew Brees made Jimmy Graham can also be looked at as Jimmy Graham elevated Drew Brees. End of the day its a business. I take umbrage when fans talk **** about a players loyalty to management who traded him like a thief in the night. Kool aid drinkers only see it one way, when the guy that they cheered as he dunked after scoring touchdowns for us...was traded by the same mgmt. Now
he's disloyal????
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