Re-watched the game:Observations

Danno · 10-06-2015, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

With Strief playing this bad it makes you wonder how bad Peat is. As much hype as he had coming into the draft I figured he could not be any worse at this point.

Strief isn't playing as well as he did the last few seasons, but he isn't playing nearly as bad as many claim.

pherein · 10-06-2015, 06:31 PM

Spillers personality pumps up the team. They way he talks trash after he runs, love it. he needs to be on the field more. Ive always said hes going to be the Best skat back we have ever had. He can catch better than most RB's.
But, unlike most of the past Shat backs spiller is a pure ½ back, and a better runner up the middle than any RB we have.
I dont see SP using him this way, but he should. Spiller is tough and can run for more yards on a 3-4 play up the right guard than Ingram, Robinson, or Murphy most of the time. I hope SP doesnt keep him in a glass jar and only breaks it once in awhile.
year Att yards Y/A
2010 74 283 3.8
2011 107 561 5.2
2012 207 1244 6.0
2013 202 933 4.6
2014 78 300 3.8

The kids a machine. The more you give him touches the better he gets.
I really want to see some Ingram/Spiller sets with Ingram blocking FB and going off guard up the middle. Its so much fun watching Spiller run when he gets going he shreds the secondary. Not with speed so much much, but with killer moves.

voodooido · 10-06-2015, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Strief isn't playing as well as he did the last few seasons, but he isn't playing nearly as bad as many claim.

It seems like almost every play he gets abused.

Danno · 10-06-2015, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

It seems like almost every play he gets abused.

I saw a couple in the 1st half, but virtually none in the 2nd.

I'll probably re-watch it tonight but I don't think he was as bad as everyone has said.

AlaskaSaints · 10-06-2015, 08:05 PM

"Offenses win GAMES. Defenses win CHAMPIONSHIPS."

If this is true, we go 8-8.

I just pray that this week was the spark that lights the fire.

Crusader · 10-07-2015, 03:36 AM

Originally Posted by voodooido

It seems like almost every play he gets abused.

But it seems like that mainly because people don't fully understand how an O-line works.

darstep · 10-07-2015, 05:45 AM

I can't be happier that our first win came against the Cowboys.
The rest of my season will be much more pleasant because of it.
I rolled the dice and made the trip. Glad my ride home was with the sweet taste of victory.
But...
OFFENSE
Brees dinked and dunked ALL day - I started thinking he was still hurt.
Only receiver going down the field was Cooks and he was doubled over the top.
Payton was as predictable as ever.
O-line was on their heels all day, rather than on their toes.
There was no one getting separation.
Strief ... don't even know what to say.
He and Colston are like the OLD lion whose day is done.
Spiller should have been getting the screens and Khiry some 1st down touches.
3rd and short, 2 TEs and a fullback - PLEASE rip that page out of the play book.
DEFENSE
I recall 3 3rd and long give-aways because of penalties. Have to clean that up.
Make teams earn 3rd down conversions by making plays.
Youngters were AWSOME!
Kikaha and Anthony played a hell of a game.
Run defense was admirable. 3 break-out runs for 70+. All the rest totaled 45ish.
Browner gets points for run support - and run support only.
Breaux, Browner, Viccaro, in coverage - just bad.
How do we let Witten get loose, when it's 3rd and long and a backup QB?
Pass rush is going to have to take some pressure off the cover guys.
Weeden had ALL day. Weeden! Weeden!
Can you imagine a poised starter with that much time?
Lots of work to do on both sides of the ball.
I see flashes all over the field.
Payton has to figure out how to get all the good things to show up in the same game,
and eliminate the easy give-aways on defense.

skymike · 10-07-2015, 07:01 AM

Originally Posted by darstep

I can't be happier that our first win came against the Cowboys.
The rest of my season will be much more pleasant because of it.
I rolled the dice and made the trip. Glad my ride home was with the sweet taste of victory.

where did you sit?

darstep · 10-07-2015, 08:50 AM

Section 545 behind the Saints Upper Level 3rd Row 45 yard line.
Excellent seats.

Budsdrinker · 10-07-2015, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by darstep

I can't be happier that our first win came against the Cowboys.
The rest of my season will be much more pleasant because of it.
I rolled the dice and made the trip. Glad my ride home was with the sweet taste of victory.
But...
OFFENSE
Brees dinked and dunked ALL day - I started thinking he was still hurt.
Only receiver going down the field was Cooks and he was doubled over the top.
Payton was as predictable as ever.
O-line was on their heels all day, rather than on their toes.
There was no one getting separation.
Strief ... don't even know what to say.
He and Colston are like the OLD lion whose day is done.
Spiller should have been getting the screens and Khiry some 1st down touches.
3rd and short, 2 TEs and a fullback - PLEASE rip that page out of the play book.
DEFENSE
I recall 3 3rd and long give-aways because of penalties. Have to clean that up.
Make teams earn 3rd down conversions by making plays.
Youngters were AWSOME!
Kikaha and Anthony played a hell of a game.
Run defense was admirable. 3 break-out runs for 70+. All the rest totaled 45ish.
Browner gets points for run support - and run support only.
Breaux, Browner, Viccaro, in coverage - just bad.
How do we let Witten get loose, when it's 3rd and long and a backup QB?
Pass rush is going to have to take some pressure off the cover guys.
Weeden had ALL day. Weeden! Weeden!
Can you imagine a poised starter with that much time?
Lots of work to do on both sides of the ball.
I see flashes all over the field.
Payton has to figure out how to get all the good things to show up in the same game,
and eliminate the easy give-aways on defense.

I guess I'm in the minority on this but I like the dink and dunk moving the chains and eating clock. Big plays are exciting but I like chewing up the clock in close games. Also reduces the INT's thrown in double coverage.

10-06-2015, 06:21 PM	#31
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: Re-watched the game:Observations Originally Posted by voodooido With Strief playing this bad it makes you wonder how bad Peat is. As much hype as he had coming into the draft I figured he could not be any worse at this point. Strief isn't playing as well as he did the last few seasons, but he isn't playing nearly as bad as many claim. Crusader likes this.

10-06-2015, 06:31 PM	#32
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Re-watched the game:Observations Spillers personality pumps up the team. They way he talks trash after he runs, love it. he needs to be on the field more. Ive always said hes going to be the Best skat back we have ever had. He can catch better than most RB's. But, unlike most of the past Shat backs spiller is a pure ½ back, and a better runner up the middle than any RB we have. I dont see SP using him this way, but he should. Spiller is tough and can run for more yards on a 3-4 play up the right guard than Ingram, Robinson, or Murphy most of the time. I hope SP doesnt keep him in a glass jar and only breaks it once in awhile. year Att yards Y/A 2010 74 283 3.8 2011 107 561 5.2 2012 207 1244 6.0 2013 202 933 4.6 2014 78 300 3.8 The kids a machine. The more you give him touches the better he gets. I really want to see some Ingram/Spiller sets with Ingram blocking FB and going off guard up the middle. Its so much fun watching Spiller run when he gets going he shreds the secondary. Not with speed so much much, but with killer moves. leilung and Rugby Saint II like this.
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10-06-2015, 07:48 PM	#33
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,739	Re: Re-watched the game:Observations Originally Posted by Danno Strief isn't playing as well as he did the last few seasons, but he isn't playing nearly as bad as many claim. It seems like almost every play he gets abused.
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10-06-2015, 07:53 PM	#34
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: Re-watched the game:Observations Originally Posted by voodooido It seems like almost every play he gets abused. I saw a couple in the 1st half, but virtually none in the 2nd. I'll probably re-watch it tonight but I don't think he was as bad as everyone has said.

10-06-2015, 08:05 PM	#35
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Re-watched the game:Observations "Offenses win GAMES. Defenses win CHAMPIONSHIPS." If this is true, we go 8-8. I just pray that this week was the spark that lights the fire.

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10-07-2015, 03:36 AM	#36
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 7,983	Re: Re-watched the game:Observations Originally Posted by voodooido It seems like almost every play he gets abused. But it seems like that mainly because people don't fully understand how an O-line works.

10-07-2015, 05:45 AM	#37
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Re: Re-watched the game:Observations I can't be happier that our first win came against the Cowboys. The rest of my season will be much more pleasant because of it. I rolled the dice and made the trip. Glad my ride home was with the sweet taste of victory. But... OFFENSE Brees dinked and dunked ALL day - I started thinking he was still hurt. Only receiver going down the field was Cooks and he was doubled over the top. Payton was as predictable as ever. O-line was on their heels all day, rather than on their toes. There was no one getting separation. Strief ... don't even know what to say. He and Colston are like the OLD lion whose day is done. Spiller should have been getting the screens and Khiry some 1st down touches. 3rd and short, 2 TEs and a fullback - PLEASE rip that page out of the play book. DEFENSE I recall 3 3rd and long give-aways because of penalties. Have to clean that up. Make teams earn 3rd down conversions by making plays. Youngters were AWSOME! Kikaha and Anthony played a hell of a game. Run defense was admirable. 3 break-out runs for 70+. All the rest totaled 45ish. Browner gets points for run support - and run support only. Breaux, Browner, Viccaro, in coverage - just bad. How do we let Witten get loose, when it's 3rd and long and a backup QB? Pass rush is going to have to take some pressure off the cover guys. Weeden had ALL day. Weeden! Weeden! Can you imagine a poised starter with that much time? Lots of work to do on both sides of the ball. I see flashes all over the field. Payton has to figure out how to get all the good things to show up in the same game, and eliminate the easy give-aways on defense. skymike and Rugby Saint II like this.
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10-07-2015, 07:01 AM	#38
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Re-watched the game:Observations Originally Posted by darstep I can't be happier that our first win came against the Cowboys. The rest of my season will be much more pleasant because of it. I rolled the dice and made the trip. Glad my ride home was with the sweet taste of victory. where did you sit?

10-07-2015, 08:50 AM	#39
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Re: Re-watched the game:Observations Section 545 behind the Saints Upper Level 3rd Row 45 yard line. Excellent seats.

10-07-2015, 11:33 AM	#40
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Re-watched the game:Observations Originally Posted by darstep I can't be happier that our first win came against the Cowboys. The rest of my season will be much more pleasant because of it. I rolled the dice and made the trip. Glad my ride home was with the sweet taste of victory. But... OFFENSE Brees dinked and dunked ALL day - I started thinking he was still hurt. Only receiver going down the field was Cooks and he was doubled over the top. Payton was as predictable as ever. O-line was on their heels all day, rather than on their toes. There was no one getting separation. Strief ... don't even know what to say. He and Colston are like the OLD lion whose day is done. Spiller should have been getting the screens and Khiry some 1st down touches. 3rd and short, 2 TEs and a fullback - PLEASE rip that page out of the play book. DEFENSE I recall 3 3rd and long give-aways because of penalties. Have to clean that up. Make teams earn 3rd down conversions by making plays. Youngters were AWSOME! Kikaha and Anthony played a hell of a game. Run defense was admirable. 3 break-out runs for 70+. All the rest totaled 45ish. Browner gets points for run support - and run support only. Breaux, Browner, Viccaro, in coverage - just bad. How do we let Witten get loose, when it's 3rd and long and a backup QB? Pass rush is going to have to take some pressure off the cover guys. Weeden had ALL day. Weeden! Weeden! Can you imagine a poised starter with that much time? Lots of work to do on both sides of the ball. I see flashes all over the field. Payton has to figure out how to get all the good things to show up in the same game, and eliminate the easy give-aways on defense. I guess I'm in the minority on this but I like the dink and dunk moving the chains and eating clock. Big plays are exciting but I like chewing up the clock in close games. Also reduces the INT's thrown in double coverage. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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