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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; From Canal Street Chronicles: 2) Anger (regarding Loomis and Payton's mismanagement) I'm with all of you here. The 2015 Saints are a shell of what the Saints had been from 2006 to 2013 (if we consider 2012 the anomaly that ...

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Old 10-12-2015, 09:15 AM   #31
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From Canal Street Chronicles:

2) Anger (regarding Loomis and Payton's mismanagement)

I'm with all of you here. The 2015 Saints are a shell of what the Saints had been from 2006 to 2013 (if we consider 2012 the anomaly that it was). How did a team so dominant for such a long time suddenly fall off the face of the NFL earth? Bad management from the front office.

On Thursday night, the Saints will face the 5-0 Falcons. Atlanta fans will come here and gloat and trash talk, as if the past two years of 4-12 and 6-10 records with arguably the best wide receiver in the NFL and one of the best quarterbacks never happened. Why were they so bad in back-to-back years then? Mike Smith and his staff weren't getting the job done anymore. Smith had been an outstanding coach in Atlanta earlier in his tenure, but he had lost his way and was fired. Sean Payton has lost his way, so has Mickey Loomis. They've drafted pretty well in 2015 mind you, so maybe there's hope for the future. But the question is: do we want them at the helm of this future? Do we want them delivering the same stale message and making the same mistakes? Only Tom Benson can answer that question. For now, all we have as fans is anger at the staff that drove the Ferrari off a cliff.
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Finding a Nose Tackle isn't the problem; we actually have two draft picks invested in Jenkins...

Why the hell we had him lose all that weight and try to convert him to a 3-tech is beyond me...

While a ProBowl NT would be great, all we really need is a steady rotation of defensive linemen to keep a steady, fresh rush throughout the game...

It's not dreams of a Dome Patrol so much as getting a faster, more effective defense on the field...

Unless you've got a defensive line like the Rams (i.e. Quinn, Brockers, Donald, Long), just get some behemoths and neutralize the other kids 3 DL vs their 5 OL and let your LBers make plays...
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Finding a Nose Tackle isn't the problem; we actually have two draft picks invested in Jenkins...

Why the hell we had him lose all that weight and try to convert him to a 3-tech is beyond me...

While a ProBowl NT would be great, all we really need is a steady rotation of defensive linemen to keep a steady, fresh rush throughout the game...

It's not dreams of a Dome Patrol so much as getting a faster, more effective defense on the field...

Unless you've got a defensive line like the Rams (i.e. Quinn, Brockers, Donald, Long), just get some behemoths and neutralize the other kids 3 DL vs their 5 OL and let your LBers make plays...
I find it odd that we literally never blitz anymore. The defensive philosophy is as bad as the offense. We regularly only rush three players and expect our DBs to hold up with the QB having all day to throw. This team does the opposite of what it should be doing in just about every phase of the game.

I want Greg Williams back, fire Payton and hire Williams as the HC!
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I find it odd that we literally never blitz anymore. The defensive philosophy is as bad as the offense. We regularly only rush three players and expect our DBs to hold up with the QB having all day to throw. This team does the opposite of what it should be doing in just about every phase of the game.

I want Greg Williams back, fire Payton and hire Williams as the HC!
That's the Dennis Allen effect.
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I want Bill Cowart.
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I want Bill Cowart.
Who is bill coward?
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In Loomis and Payton I Trust !!!
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Who is bill coward?
I'm not great at spelling but he is the Steelers old coach!!
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In case you didn't notice, we started blowing things up last season...

We've had a really great draft that is already paying dividends this season...

Pray more personnel decision making is shifted to the competent Jeff Ireland...

Payton has plenty of good Saints Football left in him; I want him to stay put...

Loomis, not so much...
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