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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; As Saints fans we are emotional, angry, sad, and want to place blame for the 1-4 start. This week the fingers are pointing to the timeless fan favorite of "Sean Payton's play calling is TERRIBLE!" My emails this week and ...

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Old 10-15-2015, 09:11 AM   #1
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Forecast: Saints problems are from lack of talent, not play-calling

As Saints fans we are emotional, angry, sad, and want to place blame for the 1-4 start. This week the fingers are pointing to the timeless fan favorite of "Sean Payton's play calling is TERRIBLE!" My emails this week and people yelling at me on Twitter are all, "Payton has lost the fire, he's not aggressive, he needs to let Pete Carmichael call plays!"

I've never been big on "If the Saints would just call better plays, they'd win" eulogizing.

The theory of "Pete Carmichael called plays in 2011 and 2012 and the Saints offense was GREAT, so do that and things will get better" is delusion and denial on a magnificent scale. The 2015 Saints are like the 2011 Saints the same way Earnest Hemingway and I are both writers. Both things appear exactly alike from 20,000 miles away. It's only up close you realize things are very different.

As fans it's very difficult for us to let go of what the Saints were. Oh sure during the week we tell ourselves the Saints are rebuilding and they aren't any good on offense anymore but on game day Drew Brees is still the quarterback and we want the MAGIC! Why can't Sean Payton find it? It has to be in there somewhere?

Forecast: Saints problems are from lack of talent, not play-calling
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Re: Forecast: Saints problems are from lack of talent, not play-calling

Thats a good piece of writing. I agre with most everything in there.
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Old 10-15-2015, 09:34 AM   #3
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Re: Forecast: Saints problems are from lack of talent, not play-calling

The Saints offense of years past could fall behind 10 or 14 points and bounce back. Payton had Brees, Jimmy Graham, Devery Henderson, Darren Sproles and Pierre Thomas to dial up big plays for. He also had an offensive line that could hold together in 'must pass' situations. In 2015 the Saints have none of those things.

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Re: Forecast: Saints problems are from lack of talent, not play-calling

Gee I wonder what changed....
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No talent = bad drafting.
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Old 10-15-2015, 02:38 PM   #6
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Re: Forecast: Saints problems are from lack of talent, not play-calling

Receivers are lost for the most part, takes time to build that that consistency. We were doing great for a while, introducing a new target here and there but this season it's too many new faces. It will get better but likely not until it is too late.
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Re: Forecast: Saints problems are from lack of talent, not play-calling

Pretty much...

Are the Saints more conservative and less explosive? Yep. Sean Payton is working with what he has to win the game. Asking Payton to make this Saints offense great would be like asking the great Paul Prudhomme to make a five-star meal out of a shoe, red beans, week old meat, and some spices. It's not impossible to make dinner, but even the best have limitations. Besides, the Saints can't shop for more groceries until 2016, so Sean Payton has to serve us the most unexciting dinner every week.
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Old 10-15-2015, 05:19 PM   #8
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Gee I wonder what changed....

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Old 10-15-2015, 05:21 PM   #9
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Well we haven't been able to run the ball because of the teams we play. We will have an easier time coming up and maybe that helps. As for tonight, I'm not sure where the weakness on Atlanta's secondary is.
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Old 10-15-2015, 05:26 PM   #10
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Re: Forecast: Saints problems are from lack of talent, not play-calling

And who's fault is it that we have a lack of talent?
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