Brandon Browner

halloween 65 · 11-01-2015, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Well ... two starters are out. Not having Keenan in most of the game is hurting us right now. Hopefully we get Ellerbe back next week.
Some of those calls by the zebras were questionable though .

I trust we will perform a LOT better against a bad Titans ball club.

I can't say enough what a difference having Ellerbe on the field vs. him being off the field has been. Our D actually should have cost us this game. We looked pitiful AGAIN on the D side. Spags got a taste of Payton today and our O played well (got to say that 52 points) but I think things are going to get alot tuffer when we come across teams with decent D's. The Giants exposed alot of our weaknesses on D today and I look for teams to ajust a little to pick this D apart.

jeanpierre · 11-01-2015, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Swann cant stay on the field and breaux doesn't know how to play the deep ball. Browner is absolutely trash...

We need Lewis back asap. Our DBs look like rookies... because they are and will get better but it needs to happen soon.

Lewis was back on the field, albeit it for only a couple of plays...

Let 'Westbank' get healed up, we've had alot of guys injured...

If Ellerbe can ever get that hip healed we'll be that much better...

burningmetal · 11-01-2015, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

None of our other CB's played better than Browner, that was the frustrating thing.

Breaux completely misjudged the deep pass to Beckham and Byrd was supposed to be the deep man.

Later Breaux had basically tackled Beckham which negated a sack fumble.

Breaux gave up 3 TD's!! 2 on the exact same friggin play!

Eli Manning Broke the pocket, he threw an absolute duck into the end zone where atleast FIVE...YES FIVE Saints defenders were and the guy caught it completely untouched. The normally reliable Damian Swann made a complete hash mis-timing his jump.

I saw Cam Jordan jogging towards Eli Manning multiple times when Manning escaped the pocket.

It's a good job our offense was on point because our defense nearly embarrassed us.

The Swann play in the endzone WAS ridiculous. Absolutely one of the worst plays a defender has ever made (or not made) in my days of watching football.

Breaux was definitely bad today. The most frustrating thing about Browner is that he isn't even competitive. And I'm not talking about competitive as in attitude. He holds at the first sign of trouble. You don't even force the receiver and quarterback to make a play when you just pull on jerseys all day. He's terrible.

I couldn't believe how Breaux under ran that deep ball to Beckham. Eli ended up with some highly inflated stats with the number of botched plays in our secondary.

nola_swammi · 11-01-2015, 07:29 PM

We won and I am ecstatic but at the same time I am a little down cause our defense didn't show up. Beckham expose Beaux, Browner avg 2 game changer penalties a game, Swann will be lost at least 2 games, Payton won't stay out of RR face,

What I don't understand is how those refs can catch our db's on holding or pass interference but they couldn't see that Snead was pass interfered on a crucial 3rd down. I know people might see the play Breaux as holding but I see it as legal especially compared to the one with a db riding the back of Snead. You don't have to listen to the announcer to tell right from wrong when you know the rules of this game

blackangold · 11-01-2015, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

We won and I am ecstatic but at the same time I am a little down cause our defense didn't show up. Beckham expose Beaux, Browner avg 2 game changer penalties a game, Swann will be lost at least 2 games, Payton won't stay out of RR face,

What I don't understand is how those refs can catch our db's on holding or pass interference but they couldn't see that Snead was pass interfered on a crucial 3rd down. I know people might see the play Breaux as holding but I see it as legal especially compared to the one with a db riding the back of Snead. You don't have to listen to the announcer to tell right from wrong when you know the rules of this game

The refs were calling the game 1 way no doubt, however Browner basically asks for it every play.

I feel the same way you do though, great game for our offense but the defense has me concerned more than ever. Since the 3rd qtr of the Colts game they have played like ****. 6 QTRs of bad football from the Defense. I am shocked that RR still has a job, his ass ought to be gone win or loss.

K Major · 11-01-2015, 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

We won and I am ecstatic but at the same time I am a little down cause our defense didn't show up. Beckham expose Beaux, Browner avg 2 game changer penalties a game, Swann will be lost at least 2 games, Payton won't stay out of RR face,

What I don't understand is how those refs can catch our db's on holding or pass interference but they couldn't see that Snead was pass interfered on a crucial 3rd down.

Nola, when Browner holds ... he HOLDS. The WR's shirt is out, pulled and its very obvious. He makes it so easy for the zebras to see.

His play has been very poor up to this point & has been beaten like a Pearl snare drum

. Gotta somehow limit his snaps.

I see BB as a liability out there.

WHODATINCA · 11-01-2015, 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I believe he got penalised 4 times, 2 kept drives going

Breaux had a backbreaking penalty when he basically tackled odell Beckham during his route, whilst our D line smacked Eli Manning and recovered his fumble. All wiped out due to Breaux.

Loved Breaux last week. Hate him this week. He is learning. Also, he is the the most exciting cornerback we have seen around here in a very, very long time. Browner's roster spot, on the other hand, could be improved. But, I think this is a coaching tolerance issue. The Seahawks, as a matter of policy, didn't mind the penalties.

MatthewT · 11-02-2015, 06:29 AM

Take it easy on Breaux, take a great hands receiver like Beckham who just happens to run like a 4.3 40, and mix in a Hall of Fame QB and there you have it. Breaux will learn, just wasn't his best day against an elite WR/QB combo. Now regarding Browner, what in the world... I do love Browner, but he really needs to stop with the penalties. He needs to realize too that he is a marked man and will not catch any breaks from officials.

Crusader · 11-02-2015, 06:49 AM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

Take it easy on Breaux, take a great hands receiver like Beckham who just happens to run like a 4.3 40, and mix in a Hall of Fame QB and there you have it. Breaux will learn, just wasn't his best day against an elite WR/QB combo. Now regarding Browner, what in the world... I do love Browner, but he really needs to stop with the penalties. He needs to realize too that he is a marked man and will not catch any breaks from officials.

Agreed. OBJ is a top 5 WR in the league. Nobody can play a great game against that kind of talent every week.

dizzle88 · 11-02-2015, 07:22 AM

No doubt OBJ is a top 5 receiver but the none of the TD's he scored had anything to do with talent, especially the last one, Both Breaux and Byrd just completely failed to judge a ball in the air.

The first two were simply a failure of not watching tape on the Giants tendencies in the red zone.

11-01-2015, 06:40 PM	#21
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Brandon Browner Originally Posted by K Major Well ... two starters are out. Not having Keenan in most of the game is hurting us right now. Hopefully we get Ellerbe back next week. Some of those calls by the zebras were questionable though . I trust we will perform a LOT better against a bad Titans ball club. I can't say enough what a difference having Ellerbe on the field vs. him being off the field has been. Our D actually should have cost us this game. We looked pitiful AGAIN on the D side. Spags got a taste of Payton today and our O played well (got to say that 52 points) but I think things are going to get alot tuffer when we come across teams with decent D's. The Giants exposed alot of our weaknesses on D today and I look for teams to ajust a little to pick this D apart.

11-01-2015, 06:58 PM	#22
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Brandon Browner Originally Posted by blackangold Swann cant stay on the field and breaux doesn't know how to play the deep ball. Browner is absolutely trash... We need Lewis back asap. Our DBs look like rookies... because they are and will get better but it needs to happen soon. Lewis was back on the field, albeit it for only a couple of plays... Let 'Westbank' get healed up, we've had alot of guys injured... If Ellerbe can ever get that hip healed we'll be that much better... K Major likes this.

11-01-2015, 07:23 PM	#23
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,905 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Brandon Browner Originally Posted by dizzle88 None of our other CB's played better than Browner, that was the frustrating thing. Breaux completely misjudged the deep pass to Beckham and Byrd was supposed to be the deep man. Later Breaux had basically tackled Beckham which negated a sack fumble. Breaux gave up 3 TD's!! 2 on the exact same friggin play! Eli Manning Broke the pocket, he threw an absolute duck into the end zone where atleast FIVE...YES FIVE Saints defenders were and the guy caught it completely untouched. The normally reliable Damian Swann made a complete hash mis-timing his jump. I saw Cam Jordan jogging towards Eli Manning multiple times when Manning escaped the pocket. It's a good job our offense was on point because our defense nearly embarrassed us. The Swann play in the endzone WAS ridiculous. Absolutely one of the worst plays a defender has ever made (or not made) in my days of watching football. Breaux was definitely bad today. The most frustrating thing about Browner is that he isn't even competitive. And I'm not talking about competitive as in attitude. He holds at the first sign of trouble. You don't even force the receiver and quarterback to make a play when you just pull on jerseys all day. He's terrible. I couldn't believe how Breaux under ran that deep ball to Beckham. Eli ended up with some highly inflated stats with the number of botched plays in our secondary.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

11-01-2015, 07:29 PM	#24
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,626	Re: Brandon Browner We won and I am ecstatic but at the same time I am a little down cause our defense didn't show up. Beckham expose Beaux, Browner avg 2 game changer penalties a game, Swann will be lost at least 2 games, Payton won't stay out of RR face, What I don't understand is how those refs can catch our db's on holding or pass interference but they couldn't see that Snead was pass interfered on a crucial 3rd down. I know people might see the play Breaux as holding but I see it as legal especially compared to the one with a db riding the back of Snead. You don't have to listen to the announcer to tell right from wrong when you know the rules of this game WHODATINCA likes this.

11-01-2015, 09:26 PM	#25
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Brandon Browner Originally Posted by nola_swammi We won and I am ecstatic but at the same time I am a little down cause our defense didn't show up. Beckham expose Beaux, Browner avg 2 game changer penalties a game, Swann will be lost at least 2 games, Payton won't stay out of RR face, What I don't understand is how those refs can catch our db's on holding or pass interference but they couldn't see that Snead was pass interfered on a crucial 3rd down. I know people might see the play Breaux as holding but I see it as legal especially compared to the one with a db riding the back of Snead. You don't have to listen to the announcer to tell right from wrong when you know the rules of this game The refs were calling the game 1 way no doubt, however Browner basically asks for it every play. I feel the same way you do though, great game for our offense but the defense has me concerned more than ever. Since the 3rd qtr of the Colts game they have played like ****. 6 QTRs of bad football from the Defense. I am shocked that RR still has a job, his ass ought to be gone win or loss. K Major likes this.

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11-01-2015, 09:39 PM	#26
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,018 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Brandon Browner Originally Posted by nola_swammi We won and I am ecstatic but at the same time I am a little down cause our defense didn't show up. Beckham expose Beaux, Browner avg 2 game changer penalties a game, Swann will be lost at least 2 games, Payton won't stay out of RR face, What I don't understand is how those refs can catch our db's on holding or pass interference but they couldn't see that Snead was pass interfered on a crucial 3rd down. Nola, when Browner holds ... he HOLDS. The WR's shirt is out, pulled and its very obvious. He makes it so easy for the zebras to see. His play has been very poor up to this point & has been beaten like a Pearl snare drum . Gotta somehow limit his snaps. I see BB as a liability out there. Barry from MS likes this.

11-01-2015, 11:34 PM	#27
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: Brandon Browner Originally Posted by dizzle88 I believe he got penalised 4 times, 2 kept drives going Breaux had a backbreaking penalty when he basically tackled odell Beckham during his route, whilst our D line smacked Eli Manning and recovered his fumble. All wiped out due to Breaux. Loved Breaux last week. Hate him this week. He is learning. Also, he is the the most exciting cornerback we have seen around here in a very, very long time. Browner's roster spot, on the other hand, could be improved. But, I think this is a coaching tolerance issue. The Seahawks, as a matter of policy, didn't mind the penalties.

11-02-2015, 06:29 AM	#28
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,705	Re: Brandon Browner Take it easy on Breaux, take a great hands receiver like Beckham who just happens to run like a 4.3 40, and mix in a Hall of Fame QB and there you have it. Breaux will learn, just wasn't his best day against an elite WR/QB combo. Now regarding Browner, what in the world... I do love Browner, but he really needs to stop with the penalties. He needs to realize too that he is a marked man and will not catch any breaks from officials. Crusader likes this.

11-02-2015, 06:49 AM	#29
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 7,983	Re: Brandon Browner Originally Posted by MatthewT Take it easy on Breaux, take a great hands receiver like Beckham who just happens to run like a 4.3 40, and mix in a Hall of Fame QB and there you have it. Breaux will learn, just wasn't his best day against an elite WR/QB combo. Now regarding Browner, what in the world... I do love Browner, but he really needs to stop with the penalties. He needs to realize too that he is a marked man and will not catch any breaks from officials. Agreed. OBJ is a top 5 WR in the league. Nobody can play a great game against that kind of talent every week.

11-02-2015, 07:22 AM	#30
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,838	Re: Brandon Browner No doubt OBJ is a top 5 receiver but the none of the TD's he scored had anything to do with talent, especially the last one, Both Breaux and Byrd just completely failed to judge a ball in the air. The first two were simply a failure of not watching tape on the Giants tendencies in the red zone. jlaw8920 and brees84 like this.

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