Did you expect anything different?

Barry from MS · 11-15-2015, 08:11 PM

Scoring droughts for this season I've noticed? It's the unanswered points and the times between those that stand out the most.

@ AZ - We did well against a great defense, though our Red Zone offense did us no favors.
TB - 20 unanswered from the end of 2nd Qtr to mid-4th Qtr
@ CAR - 17 unanswered from mid 3rd Qtr to end 4th Qtr
DAL - We did pretty well scoring offense...no problems here
@ PHI - 29 unanswered from start of 3rd Qtr to 4 seconds left in the game
ATL - We didn't score on offense between mid 1st Qtr until we kicked a FG midway through the 3rd Qtr.
@ IND - 21 unanswered. Yes, we had a 27-0 lead, but we never scored again after 10:30 in the 3rd Qtr. We punted 10 freakin' times b/c we couldn't put them away with our offense with our shaky defense.
NYG - 21 unanswered from end of 3 Qtr to end of 4th Qtr. This was one whacky game...
TEN - 10 unanswered from beginning of the 2nd Qtr to the beginning of the 4th Qtr.
@ Was - 33 unanswered as we scored at the beginning of 2nd Qtr and never scored again

Danno · 11-15-2015, 08:23 PM

Change "unanswered" to "our defense allowed" and you'll see the problem.

Barry from MS · 11-15-2015, 08:45 PM

That's the response I would have come back with, as well. Our defense is atrocious.

The point I guess I failed to make was the time between our scores in each game. In 8 of our 10 games we didn't score on offense for over a quarter. In 4 of those games it was almost 2 quarters without scoring anything. The defense not getting off the field didn't help these in some instances, as well, keeping our offense off the field.

But do you realize we still got 350 yards of total offense today, yet we scored 14 points? When we are in "catch-up mode" from these unanswered/our-defense-allowed-points, their defense play back to prevent the big play and we can rack up yards underneath late in games.

I'll rather take lower yards & higher points from our offense. I'll also take a defense that'll get their offense off the field on 3rd down & create turnovers for our offense.

Rell&Gold · 11-15-2015, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I expected 11-5, and I still think thats what our talent level indicates.

Even with a 90 year old WR, 2 rookie WR's, 2 back-up TE's we're still the number one offense in the NFL.

With the worst defense in world history, to have the number one offense in the league is outstanding.

If we simply had a middle of the road defense we'd probably be 7-3 as we speak.

If i had a dollar for every time I heard that (If we had a better defense) oh boy would I be rich , but that's a BIG if right

Rell&Gold · 11-15-2015, 09:00 PM

Strief is a right of passage for d-linemen. He's very inconsistent Pass Blocking is Piss Poor We need TWO Guards and a RIGHT TACKLE LT & Center are the ONLY mainstays on this o-line

Rell&Gold · 11-15-2015, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by winmill1

Strief is horrible. And to be honest when our line was good he was the weak link. Now that our line is mediocre, it shows how bad he is

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winmill1 · 11-15-2015, 09:10 PM

Our O line ranks 24. That is disappointing from when we had top 5 O LINE. You can say it's just the D, but it is the whole team. Even Special Teams. When was last time you felt comfortable with a kicker we have had. But Hopkins looked pretty good. Who makes that decision. That guy outscored our whole team and we cut him for someone who isn't on our team.

winmill1 · 11-15-2015, 09:13 PM

2014 our line was 11th. We shouldn't have gotten worse with a 1st rd pick and trade for Unger.

burningmetal · 11-15-2015, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Most RT's get destroyed by quick DE's. its why they aren't playing LT.

Strief is currently middle of the pack for RT's. He's not as good as previous years, but he's not as bad as some are suggesting.

I think he's absolutely that bad. If he's playing RT because he isn't good enough to play LT, shouldn't he at least be a good RT? The is always either giving up sacks or holding because he's getting beat. He's not the only bad lineman we have, but he's the one I see getting beat the most.

winmill1 · 11-15-2015, 09:14 PM

2013 Oline was 10th, 2012 Oline was 3. That is a big decline.

11-15-2015, 08:11 PM	#31
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Did you expect anything different? Scoring droughts for this season I've noticed? It's the unanswered points and the times between those that stand out the most. @ AZ - We did well against a great defense, though our Red Zone offense did us no favors. TB - 20 unanswered from the end of 2nd Qtr to mid-4th Qtr @ CAR - 17 unanswered from mid 3rd Qtr to end 4th Qtr DAL - We did pretty well scoring offense...no problems here @ PHI - 29 unanswered from start of 3rd Qtr to 4 seconds left in the game ATL - We didn't score on offense between mid 1st Qtr until we kicked a FG midway through the 3rd Qtr. @ IND - 21 unanswered. Yes, we had a 27-0 lead, but we never scored again after 10:30 in the 3rd Qtr. We punted 10 freakin' times b/c we couldn't put them away with our offense with our shaky defense. NYG - 21 unanswered from end of 3 Qtr to end of 4th Qtr. This was one whacky game... TEN - 10 unanswered from beginning of the 2nd Qtr to the beginning of the 4th Qtr. @ Was - 33 unanswered as we scored at the beginning of 2nd Qtr and never scored again
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11-15-2015, 08:23 PM	#32
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: Did you expect anything different? Change "unanswered" to "our defense allowed" and you'll see the problem.

11-15-2015, 08:45 PM	#33
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Did you expect anything different? That's the response I would have come back with, as well. Our defense is atrocious. The point I guess I failed to make was the time between our scores in each game. In 8 of our 10 games we didn't score on offense for over a quarter. In 4 of those games it was almost 2 quarters without scoring anything. The defense not getting off the field didn't help these in some instances, as well, keeping our offense off the field. But do you realize we still got 350 yards of total offense today, yet we scored 14 points? When we are in "catch-up mode" from these unanswered/our-defense-allowed-points, their defense play back to prevent the big play and we can rack up yards underneath late in games. I'll rather take lower yards & higher points from our offense. I'll also take a defense that'll get their offense off the field on 3rd down & create turnovers for our offense. Rell&Gold likes this.
	"I'd far rather be happy than right any day" ~ Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy "Honor: if you need it defined, you don't have it" ~ Ron Swanson

11-15-2015, 08:51 PM	#34
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,874	Re: Did you expect anything different? Originally Posted by Danno I expected 11-5, and I still think thats what our talent level indicates. Even with a 90 year old WR, 2 rookie WR's, 2 back-up TE's we're still the number one offense in the NFL. With the worst defense in world history, to have the number one offense in the league is outstanding. If we simply had a middle of the road defense we'd probably be 7-3 as we speak. If i had a dollar for every time I heard that (If we had a better defense) oh boy would I be rich , but that's a BIG if right

11-15-2015, 09:00 PM	#35
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,874	Re: Did you expect anything different? Strief is a right of passage for d-linemen. He's very inconsistent Pass Blocking is Piss Poor We need TWO Guards and a RIGHT TACKLE LT & Center are the ONLY mainstays on this o-line

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11-15-2015, 09:02 PM	#36
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,874	Re: Did you expect anything different? Originally Posted by winmill1 Strief is horrible. And to be honest when our line was good he was the weak link. Now that our line is mediocre, it shows how bad he is Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Your only as good as your weakest link, & we have some very weak links

11-15-2015, 09:10 PM	#37
winmill1 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 423	Re: Did you expect anything different? Our O line ranks 24. That is disappointing from when we had top 5 O LINE. You can say it's just the D, but it is the whole team. Even Special Teams. When was last time you felt comfortable with a kicker we have had. But Hopkins looked pretty good. Who makes that decision. That guy outscored our whole team and we cut him for someone who isn't on our team.
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11-15-2015, 09:13 PM	#38
winmill1 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 423	Re: Did you expect anything different? 2014 our line was 11th. We shouldn't have gotten worse with a 1st rd pick and trade for Unger.
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11-15-2015, 09:13 PM	#39
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,905 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Did you expect anything different? Originally Posted by Danno Most RT's get destroyed by quick DE's. its why they aren't playing LT. Strief is currently middle of the pack for RT's. He's not as good as previous years, but he's not as bad as some are suggesting. I think he's absolutely that bad. If he's playing RT because he isn't good enough to play LT, shouldn't he at least be a good RT? The is always either giving up sacks or holding because he's getting beat. He's not the only bad lineman we have, but he's the one I see getting beat the most.

11-15-2015, 09:14 PM	#40
winmill1 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 423	Re: Did you expect anything different? 2013 Oline was 10th, 2012 Oline was 3. That is a big decline.
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