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Old 11-16-2015, 02:52 PM   #31
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The lady stocking shelves at the grocery store just told me that RR won't be here next week. So, there's that.
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Problem is still in-house with the organization...

We stated we were changing personnel, base front and after drafting:

NT John Jenkins (Two picks to get him)
OLB Stephone Anthony (Drafted, Prototype 3-4 ILB, Outstanding Player, Got him running sideline-to-sideline as a 4-3 MLB)
OLB Hau'oli Kikaha (Drafted, Outstanding Player, Looked Even Better in 3-4 front in preseason)

So WTF did we switch back to a 4-3 this season?!?

Rob Ryan was brought in to install a 3-4 and yet we have a NT lose 50+ pounds (Jenkins) to play a 3-tech?!?
This above is awful for developing talent & continuity with any defense. Then you have Browner with that "C" on his chest with corners Breaux & Swann in their 1st year. What are we trying to accomplish on defense?

If anyone thinks this is all Rob Ryan for this historically terrible defense, I think it's the "can't see the forest for the trees" syndrome. Sometimes we get so focused on Ryan that we forget everything that led up to this point.
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Old 11-16-2015, 03:52 PM   #33
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Originally Posted by Barry from MS View Post
This above is awful for developing talent & continuity with any defense. Then you have Browner with that "C" on his chest with corners Breaux & Swann in their 1st year. What are we trying to accomplish on defense?

If anyone thinks this is all Rob Ryan for this historically terrible defense, I think it's the "can't see the forest for the trees" syndrome. Sometimes we get so focused on Ryan that we forget everything that led up to this point.
Its not just RR... We do need to clean house on the D side of the ball. Kick them all out but you start with the DC... you let your next one make some changes.
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Old 11-16-2015, 04:16 PM   #34
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
I don't like laying all this at Rob Ryan's feet - to do so is a mistake...

Problem is still in-house with the organization...

We stated we were changing personnel, base front and after drafting:

NT John Jenkins (Two picks to get him)
OLB Ronald Powell (Drafted, since released)
OLB Parys Halralson (Signed, Tried to convert him to DE, should have saved the trouble and just cut him)
OLB Stephone Anthony (Drafted, Prototype 3-4 ILB, Outstanding Player, Got him running sideline-to-sideline as a 4-3 MLB)
OLB Hau'oli Kikaha (Drafted, Outstanding Player, Looked Even Better in 3-4 front in preseason)
LB Dannel Ellerbe (Signed, Best years were in a 3-4 front)

So WTF did we switch back to a 4-3 this season?!?

Rob Ryan was brought in to install a 3-4 and yet we have a NT lose 50+ pounds (Jenkins) to play a 3-tech?!?

Why did we sign Williams, who, at his age should be standing off the edge as a 3-4 DE/DT and we're counting on him as a pass rusher?!?

Defensive Decisions by committee are why we are, where we are on defense and this team is sucking big time...

Only reason why I want to see Ryan go is so we can see the problem will still be there and they'll be no hiding it...

Entire Defensive Staff will go, though I'd give the secondary another shot because you can't expect them to cover with no, none, pass rush...

Unless, of course, they recommended signing Browner, then they'd have to go with the other kids...
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Old 11-16-2015, 08:16 PM   #35
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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 View Post
Problems can't be fixed until Allen, Vitt and Johnson are gone. It's time for Payton's buddies to go and get some real coaching in here

Well that's not going to happen, so get over it. Payton needs those yes men in the future. He's not going to be with us forever.
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Old 11-16-2015, 08:38 PM   #36
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Well that's not going to happen, so get over it. Payton needs those yes men in the future. He's not going to be with us forever.
There's no reason to believe he won't get them back later on down the road. Its not like GMs will be jumping out their seats to get them to come coach their players.
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Old 11-16-2015, 09:20 PM   #37
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Originally Posted by MaggieMayTB View Post
Monday will be ugly.

RR is gone.

My prediction, first time I felt it deep and it will happen.
And RR is not alone....
Nailed it! Now, how 'bout some Powerball numbers?
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Old 11-16-2015, 09:27 PM   #38
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The "No Plan" plan is back in effect!
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Nailed it! Now, how 'bout some Powerball numbers?
Sorry.
I keep those numbers to myself.
I just don't feel like filling out those little circles with a No.2 pencil.
Then the tax burden....and all those guys I dumped crawling out of the woodwork with reports of illegitimate children I forgot I had and never supported suing me.
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