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Crusader 11-29-2015 10:58 PM

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Fire Benson! And the Govenor!

QBREES9 11-29-2015 11:12 PM

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The rebuild has begun.

jeanpierre 11-30-2015 12:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 683200)
Payton will quit. Next year you guys will be pissing and moaning that we would have won if Payton was still here.

Dude, what people really want is 'ole Payton back, not old Payton (sans the double reverse play calls)...

The real liability has been Loomis; who has never really built a team nor plan to keep a fortunate team together...

Loomis never solved the cap problem he created, but kicked the can down the road, delaying dealing with the cap...

In addition, a strong GM, nay, a leader, would've walked into Payton's office and convinced SP that many of his assistants needed replacement...

(i.e. Vitt, Johnson, Engalls, McMahon)

With regards to player personnel, free agents and draftees, the overall record has been abysmal...

Payton finally addressed the problem, making room for Ireland, and even came before the public stating there'd be changes...

And yet, the free agents brought in or re-signed just prior have become real liabilities...

Note: With the exception of Mark Ingram, who after being for the most part a first round draft-bust, has become a quality NFL starting running back...

So for failing to solve the salary cap problem, failing to check his head coach on his staff, and for failing to stock the team with competitive talent, Mickey Loomis should be thanked for his services and given his parting gifts...

Halo 11-30-2015 05:53 AM

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skymike 11-30-2015 06:50 AM

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Im hugely disappointed / frustrated, as is everyone else.

I dont know who the sacrificial goat should be. I thought Rob Ryan filled that role for us already.

I dont believe Payton got stupid overnight. Is he committed to winning, or
focused? Who knows. Will him and Loomis ever build an NFL- worthy defense?
I dont know.

If I were going to select a singular solution, my guess is build an O-Line. I think possessing the ball and scoring would fix much of whats wrong with our Defense, or at least take us to where we were, when we were winning.

SapperSaint 11-30-2015 07:46 AM

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This team is "Tow-up from the Flo-up".

It is getting to the point of being laughable. My BP doesn't even rise anyone, when I watch this team play. Every thing they do is flippant, at best. There is not one element of the team that stands out among the rest as "The Worst". This is probably the worst Saints team I've seen.

gulfgambler 11-30-2015 08:55 AM

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More penalties than points. More penalty yards than rushing yards. The entire organization has become very undisciplined.

Rugby Saint II 11-30-2015 03:33 PM

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No he doesn't need to go. He needs to let Ireland make the draft decisions. We also need a new pro scout as well.

skymike 11-30-2015 03:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SapperSaint (Post 683291)
This is probably the worst Saints team I've seen.

I said that yesterday

44Champs 11-30-2015 05:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 683342)
No he doesn't need to go. He needs to let Ireland make the draft decisions. We also need a new pro scout as well.

I hear you Rugby but what about the way he's handled free agency and the salary cap? Before becoming a GM, he was known for being a bean counter, but I think he's lost his touch.

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