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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by SapperSaint;683291". This is probably the worst Saints team I've seen. Then you missed a couple decades of Saints football. Loomis definitely needs to go and someone other than Payton needs to handle the draft. Quit giving up ...

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Old 11-30-2015, 07:05 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by SapperSaint;683291".
This is probably the worst Saints team I've seen.
Then you missed a couple decades of Saints football. Loomis definitely needs to go and someone other than Payton needs to handle the draft. Quit giving up picks trading up to pick players earlier than they are slotted to go. Quit bringing in a bunch of washed up cast off free agents and build through the draft.
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Old 11-30-2015, 07:12 PM   #22
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Dude, what people really want is 'ole Payton back, not old Payton (sans the double reverse play calls)...

The real liability has been Loomis; who has never really built a team nor plan to keep a fortunate team together...

Loomis never solved the cap problem he created, but kicked the can down the road, delaying dealing with the cap...

In addition, a strong GM, nay, a leader, would've walked into Payton's office and convinced SP that many of his assistants needed replacement...

(i.e. Vitt, Johnson, Engalls, McMahon)

With regards to player personnel, free agents and draftees, the overall record has been abysmal...

Payton finally addressed the problem, making room for Ireland, and even came before the public stating there'd be changes...

And yet, the free agents brought in or re-signed just prior have become real liabilities...

Note: With the exception of Mark Ingram, who after being for the most part a first round draft-bust, has become a quality NFL starting running back...

So for failing to solve the salary cap problem, failing to check his head coach on his staff, and for failing to stock the team with competitive talent, Mickey Loomis should be thanked for his services and given his parting gifts...
Free agents are different than college players. No one said Ireland was successful in scouting free agents. That's why he got fired in Miami as a GM.
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Old 11-30-2015, 07:21 PM   #23
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Loomis is a top 10 GM. You guys are dumber than a box of Cam Newtons.
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Old 11-30-2015, 07:24 PM   #24
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Originally Posted by skymike View Post
Im hugely disappointed / frustrated, as is everyone else.

I dont know who the sacrificial goat should be. I thought Rob Ryan filled that role for us already.

I dont believe Payton got stupid overnight. Is he committed to winning, or
focused? Who knows. Will him and Loomis ever build an NFL- worthy defense?
I dont know.

If I were going to select a singular solution, my guess is build an O-Line. I think possessing the ball and scoring would fix much of whats wrong with our Defense, or at least take us to where we were, when we were winning.

Exactly the offense used to lead the defense. Remember when we were down 21-10 in Miami, I don't recall any complaining about our defense then? If Brees cannot be the player he was in that season then we need weapons to help him become that. If we were up three TDs instead of two on NE that year BB does not bench Brady. Brees extra TDs were a difference maker in a lot of our games with a 20th ranked defense. I feel that the defense is being asked to do more than it did back then. Look pick sixes are not easy, it's a stroke of luck and we got them that year but they don't always happen. And the guys that were doing that for us were two players-one whose name should not be mentioned but also a rather underrated player with us-Mike McKenzie.
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And you're a joke

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Loomis is a top 10 GM. You guys are dumber than a box of Cam Newtons.
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And you're a joke

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And you're a joke

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Uhhh, OK.

I really never though of myself as a joke, but whatever. Maybe I am. I'm pretty open minded.
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Originally Posted by Danno View Post
Loomis is a top 10 GM. You guys are dumber than a box of Cam Newtons.
Loomis is a bottom 10 GM.
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Old 11-30-2015, 07:54 PM   #29
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II View Post
No he doesn't need to go. He needs to let Ireland make the draft decisions. We also need a new pro scout as well.
Ireland wasn't resonsible for drafting the Players we drafted?
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Originally Posted by TwistedTiger View Post
Loomis is a bottom 10 GM.
Why do you think so? He's managed to sign just about every player the coaching staff has asked for.

Every year we're bouncing the cap yet he continues to acquire free agents the staff wants.

The recent drafts proved to be pretty bad so he fired the scouting department and hired some quality help. Thats what good GM's do.

The only bad thing I can say about Loomis is that he's over-paid several veterans, probably out of loyalty.

We're one of the winningest teams in the entire NFL over his tenure. Second only to the Pats and Packers.


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