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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by WillSaints81 I'm not hung up on Graham I think you have me confused with TB. I am simply pointing out the fact that a big body would have helped in a game like this. Whether you think ...

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Old 11-29-2015, 09:54 PM   #41
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Re: Fire Sean Payton

Originally Posted by WillSaints81 View Post
I'm not hung up on Graham I think you have me confused with TB. I am simply pointing out the fact that a big body would have helped in a game like this.
Whether you think it's Graham specifically or a big target in general, the point remains the same. You're overlooking the real problem. Ben Watson has taken over as the "big target" and he's been productive, for the most part. The real problem (aside from the obvious offensive line issues) is that Sean isn't fooling anyone with his play design anymore. We were predictable the last couple years from constantly forcing the ball to Jimmy, and now we just send everybody deep, or everyone short.

You don't see any diversity in the routes. Where are the Rub routes, quick screens (not the one's where Drew has to throw the ball 20 yards across the field, and it takes an eternity just to get there), out-routes that are BEYOND the marker, and not these little 3 yard, piece of crap plays?

All that, and Drew continues to make some awful decisions.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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Old 11-29-2015, 09:56 PM   #42
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We should hire the person that really gave us the SB title. Greg Williams!
We need to quit looking backward and start looking forward. That is a big part of the franchise's problem right now.

A good up-and-coming NFL defensive assistant would be a fine choice. I wonder if Belichick would let Matt Patricia interview for jobs. Also maybe a college guy could be good. Not a know-it-all like Greg Schiano but someone more like Bill O'Brien.
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Old 11-29-2015, 10:47 PM   #43
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One problem pherein... Payton hasn't been one of the best coaches in the league in years. It's not overreacting.
Really ? so 2 seasons = bust ? are your serious ? Giants SB, cowboys, and now Saints with a SB and paytons bust ?
You serious or have you head up something.
If SP gets the Falcons job he will kick our ass all day, and you know that.
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Old 11-29-2015, 10:51 PM   #44
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
The first firing needs to be Mickey Loomis...

Bump Jeff Ireland up as General Manager...

Have Ireland inform Sean that Johnson, Vitt, McMahon, Ingalls, Dalrymple will be dismissed...

If Sean Payton can't accept those changes, well...

Let him seek a compensation package with Dallas whereby the Saints get two (2) No. 1 picks and pick up any remaining Saints financial obligations re: Payton...

Saints then release the rights to Jerruh...

Bring Bill Parcells in as President and let him and Ireland hire the next head coach...
This is a plan I can support.
It starts with Loomis...
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Old 11-29-2015, 10:56 PM   #45
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Originally Posted by neugey View Post
We need to quit looking backward and start looking forward. That is a big part of the franchise's problem right now.

A good up-and-coming NFL defensive assistant would be a fine choice. I wonder if Belichick would let Matt Patricia interview for jobs. Also maybe a college guy could be good. Not a know-it-all like Greg Schiano but someone more like Bill O'Brien.
I dont think hiring a defensive coach as a head coach makes a bit of difference. We are still built as an offensive team and it would take yet another revamping to change that. Just because we have been sucking on defense does not mean we need a defensive minded head coach as I see posted over and over. What we need is a head coach who knows enough to take over offensive AND defensive play calling duties when his assistants arent getting it done.
Payton is dubbed an "offensive genius" but its obvious he knows abosolutely nothing about coaching defenses. There is no excuse for a head coach to let his defense get as bad as ours. He can blame it on staff all he wants but in the end he doesnt know what the hell is going on either.
We need a well rounded coach. Doesnt matter if he is an offensive or defensive coach but he better know how to call the shots on either side if he has to.

Our defense is dead last. That means Payton is not a good enough defensive coach to even get us to second to last.

The last thing we need to do is hire a defensive coach just for the sake of fixing our defense and wind up with the same problem just reversed.

Another thing, If Benson really did have all his facilities about him dont you think we would have heard something from him by now? At least an expression of dissapointment?
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Old 11-29-2015, 11:27 PM   #46
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1. Demote Loomis to bean counter
2. Rip up contract for training camp at greenbrier
3. Every defensive coach fired
4. Trade Spiller and Browner
5. Cut Colston, Strief, Lelito, Hawthorne and Jenkins
6. Draft OG, DT, LB, WR and DE
7. Free agent OG, LB,
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Old 11-29-2015, 11:52 PM   #47
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I understand all the emotional craziness right now. But I'm not going to freak out. So the year is tanked. But I have high hopes for next year.
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Old 11-29-2015, 11:57 PM   #48
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The Defense wasn't going to change overnight, that I kind of figured.
The O-Line got absolutely owned today Drew was on his heels running for his life. JJ Watts was like a Fox in a Hen House he pretty much tore it up.
Not seeing a Field General on Defense like Vilma used to do. I will admit the light that used to be in SP's eyes is fading to Black.
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Old 11-30-2015, 12:04 AM   #49
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Be careful what you wish for. The grass isn't always greener.
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Old 11-30-2015, 12:37 AM   #50
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Originally Posted by QBREES9 View Post
Be careful what you wish for. The grass isn't always greener.
There's a new one.

Got any ideas? This grass doesn't look very green to me.
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