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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by pherein Really ? so 2 seasons = bust ? are your serious ? Giants SB, cowboys, and now Saints with a SB and paytons bust ? You serious or have you head up something. If SP gets ...

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Old 11-30-2015, 12:59 AM   #51
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Re: Fire Sean Payton

Originally Posted by pherein View Post
Really ? so 2 seasons = bust ? are your serious ? Giants SB, cowboys, and now Saints with a SB and paytons bust ?
You serious or have you head up something.
If SP gets the Falcons job he will kick our ass all day, and you know that.
This is something I can't agree with you on, man. First I didn't see anyone use the word bust. Bust is a term for someone that never lived up to expectations. Payton was an elite coach once. I don't know if he ever will be again, but he isn't currently. And this goes back further than two years.

We haven't been a true contender since 2011. We had the bad year without Payton in 2012, then in '13 we made it back to the playoffs, but that was mainly due to the fact that we had one of those rare years where the defense actually showed up. The offense was ok, but not elite. We couldn't move the ball against top defenses, and that meant we couldn't compete in the playoffs with the likes of Seattle.

Remember back in the day when we never felt we were out of a game? Going back to that '11 season, we had this amazing offense all year, then when we faced the 49ers in the playoffs, we came out and did everything wrong. Fell behind 17-0 against a defense who was thought to be impenetrable, we had 5 freaking turnovers and a horrible defense. It looked like we were going to lose by 40 points. Yet we came all the way back to take the lead, only to have ol' Gregg and his boys blow it.

Those days have been gone since then. When we fall behind to any kind of a decent team (sometimes bad teams, too), we just clam up and get beat down. These last two years have been bad on all parts.

Sean, Mickey and all those guys have to change what they are doing. I agreed with the firing of Rob Ryan, though I knew full well it wasn't going to change anything this year. But Payton commented on it, saying "we can't continue with status quo", I believe were his words. Well... He needs to take his own advice. Status quo = stale and cold.
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Old 11-30-2015, 01:08 AM   #52
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If you listen to his press conference he thinks there's just a few things that need to be improved. But don't worry they will see the tape tomorrow
and get it squared away because Carolina's coming a knocking.
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Old 11-30-2015, 01:14 AM   #53
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And Rita isn't winning.
Unless Rita goes base jumping without a chute, she's already won...

Tick-tock, Tick-tock for Tommy...

Benson didn't lose control of the team, but he can't remove the team from the trust...

Tick-tock, Tick-tock...

And Gayle will just have to find another old geezer to kanoodle with and bank-roll her "interior decorating" pursuits...
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Old 11-30-2015, 05:26 AM   #54
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
The first firing needs to be Mickey Loomis...

Bump Jeff Ireland up as General Manager...

Have Ireland inform Sean that Johnson, Vitt, McMahon, Ingalls, Dalrymple will be dismissed...
Shake it up ... been working for Detroit ... 3-0 since firing Team President Lewan and General Manager Mayhew ... of course, they started out 1-7, so it doesn't really matter, but I never really thought something like that would affect what happens on the field that much. Must make everyone reflect on their own job security, .

But's who's out there and how does all the legal stuff affect firing/hiring front office personnel? Rumor has it if you can snag Baltimore's Assistant GM, John Harbaugh can be had/would come along, other than that, (?).
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Old 11-30-2015, 06:14 AM   #55
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Is the band wagon on fire?
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Old 11-30-2015, 06:16 AM   #56
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Originally Posted by QBREES9 View Post
Be careful what you wish for. The grass isn't always greener.
we were 6-10 last season, yes I said 6-10 because Tampa tanked in order to get first pick.

We are looking at 4-12 to 7-9 again, how much worse could it get?
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Old 11-30-2015, 06:18 AM   #57
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Is the band wagon on fire?
I know there's no way you mean me by this.

The team may be worse than a year ago.
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Old 11-30-2015, 06:52 AM   #58
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I know there's no way you mean me by this.

The team may be worse than a year ago.
oh course not, just wondering as a group that is all.

I am looking for silver lined clouds in the storm of 2016 that is all. I am not at the point house cleaning or jumping from the band wagon season of 2016.

I came into this season saying two things.

1 give this team time to gel - injuries slowed that jell down
2 Build for 2017

So I am still chewing on the same things. They just turned out to be a little harder to digest than I was expecting.

We got some good players in the draft.

The biggest bounce of the year? Rob is gone.

"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
The first firing needs to be Mickey Loomis...

Bump Jeff Ireland up as General Manager...

Have Ireland inform Sean that Johnson, Vitt, McMahon, Ingalls, Dalrymple will be dismissed...

Now if Sean Payton can't accept those changes (or really wants a change of scenery, i.e. Dallas), well...

Let him seek a compensation package with Dallas, Miami whereby the Saints get two (2) No. 1 picks and...

...said team pick up any remaining Saints financial obligations re: Payton...

Saints then release the rights to Jerruh or the Miami dweeb...

Bring Bill Parcells in as President and let him and Ireland hire the next head coach...
draft picks dont seem to help us much
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draft picks dont seem to help us much
Jeff Ireland made a difference in the last draft...
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