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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by The Dude For those of you who keep saying this is just the media blowing things out of perportion so we shouldnt be worried. When was the last time the sports media has had this much buzz ...

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Old 01-04-2016, 10:16 PM   #21
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For those of you who keep saying this is just the media blowing things out of perportion so we shouldnt be worried. When was the last time the sports media has had this much buzz about a situation turn out NOT to be true. People were all saying the same thing when bountygate came out along with the JG trade, JR fiasco, spygate, deflategate etc. Fans said that the media was just grasping at straws in those situations too and look how they turned out. I can remember more things turning out to be true than false. Hell I cant even remember one rumor that turned out to be false.
Like it or not the fact that there is this much buzz on the situation means we should be at least concerned.
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Old 01-04-2016, 11:03 PM   #22
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Re: New Orleans Saints to restructure front office if Sean Payton stays, CBS Sports reports

Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
For those of you who keep saying this is just the media blowing things out of perportion so we shouldnt be worried. When was the last time the sports media has had this much buzz about a situation turn out NOT to be true. People were all saying the same thing when bountygate came out along with the JG trade, JR fiasco, spygate, deflategate etc. Fans said that the media was just grasping at straws in those situations too and look how they turned out. I can remember more things turning out to be true than false. Hell I cant even remember one rumor that turned out to be false.
Like it or not the fact that there is this much buzz on the situation means we should be at least concerned.
Chuck Pagano. The media has been saying for months how he was going to be fired at the end of the season. They just gave him an extension.

I now know to not put an incling of trust into sources since seeing the source of Loomis allowing Payton to talk to other teams was nick fuqing underhill.

SP will probably get a raise out of this and I don't blame him. If this many teams really want him, why not get more money. Supply and demand. What do we care how much he is paid as long as the job gets done. We will know one way or another by Wednesday.
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Chuck Pagano. The media has been saying for months how he was going to be fired at the end of the season. They just gave him an extension.

I now know to not put an incling of trust into sources since seeing the source of Loomis allowing Payton to talk to other teams was nick fuqing underhill.

SP will probably get a raise out of this and I don't blame him. If this many teams really want him, why not get more money. Supply and demand. What do we care how much he is paid as long as the job gets done. We will know one way or another by Wednesday.
Yeah and if Benson feels he wants to fork out the cash then go for it. Coaches salaries has no cap.
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Old 01-05-2016, 03:41 AM   #24
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Believe the possibility is Payton's agent has put it out there to generate a market, leverage for a pay increase; and guess what?!? It is working...

There are several dynamics involved here...

Payton's stock stays up, like most coaches, if he has an elite quarterback...

Payton essentially has had complete autonomy in personnel decisions through Mickey Loomis, human rubberstamp; granted, wanting to have control of your fate in an organization seems logical, this kind of unchecked power never seems to work in the NFL...

Don't get the resistance in this thread to Ireland because since he's been here, you can tell he is his own man and doesn't rubberstamp Loomis/Payton; we're finally seeing an appreciation for draft picks, balance of value/need in the draft and showed better draft discipline; I believe that's healthy, good thing...

Another important dynamic will be Payton's personnel vision vs Ireland's personnel vision moving forward without Loomis rubberstamp influence; now, is Payton asking for more compensation to offset the reduced personnel autonomy?!?

There are those dynamics before you face the inevitable question of Drew Brees, his age, his contract numbers, and deciding the right moment to change quarterbacks...

Is Brees a product of Payton's system?!? Is there a gross inequity in disbursement of contract, cap numbers?!? Does Payton want to groom another quarterback risking his stock value, leverage?!?

Lots and lots of dynamics...
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Wow and as usual the fans will always support the Saints not matter what!
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Can we trade Micky Loomis? I'm just asking. For a friend.

Sean Payton's status in 'limbo' following meeting with Mickey Loomis, report says | NOLA.com
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Wow and as usual the fans will always support the Saints not matter what!
Of course they will. That is the definition of a good fan. I have always, and will always, support the Saints completely with no reservation.
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It is harder to find a winning coach than it is to find a pencil pusher
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If the Colts talked to Payton’s representatives without the Saints’ permission, that would be a violation of the league’s tampering rules. If the Saints did give Payton permission to negotiate with another team, that could create an awkward dynamic in New Orleans, where Payton would know that the Saints were open to letting him leave and the Saints would know that Payton was interested in talking to another team. It’s never a great sign for a coach’s future if he and his team have both openly looked at the possibilities of parting ways.
Report: Colts talked to Sean Payton’s reps before committing to Pagano | ProFootballTalk
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This is getting ridiculous.
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