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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by WillSaints81 So Palmer's made weapons too. Look at JJ Nelson and John Brown. Palmer was playing in cold weather in Carolina. If it was Arizona, it would be different. I just feel that after it took Gronk ...

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Old 01-25-2016, 07:21 PM   #111
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So Palmer's made weapons too. Look at JJ Nelson and John Brown. Palmer was playing in cold weather in Carolina. If it was Arizona, it would be different.

I just feel that after it took Gronk to almost tie the Denver game, Brees needs someone to be clutch. Getting all these players who will never be elite is just not the way to go. I would like for Brees to restructure by 10 mil, other players to restructure, Colston to move on and saints to sign a big receiver.
What big receiver on the open market?!? Anquan Boldin?!? That's it.

We have better on our roster than will be available...

We can improve the defensive line with the a top 3 nose tackle in Damon Harrison...

We can improve and round out the linebackers with LB Danny Trevathan...

And we could acquire an affordable guard in Ryan Wendell, allowing the team to move on from Jahri Evans...

And if Colston would restructure and come back as a slot receiver as a 3rd down and end zone specialists, why would we not want him back?
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Old 01-27-2016, 09:22 AM   #112
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Saints 2016 Free Agents

Rafael Bush FS28NOTBD$1,950,000UFA
Benjamin WatsonTE35NOTBD$1,900,000UFA
Kevin WilliamsDT35NOTBD$1,500,000UFA
Michael HoouiTE27NOTBD$940,074UFA
Anthony SpencerOLB32NOTBD$665,000UFA
Luke McCownQB34NOTBD$665,000UFA
Kyle Wilson CB28NOTBD$665,000UFA
Jamarca SanfordSS30NOTBD$665,000UFA
Josh Hill TE25NOTBD$586,668RFA
Tim Lelito G26NOTBD$586,668RFA
Senio KelemeteG25NOTBD$585,000RFA
Mike McGlynnG30NOTBD$550,588UFA
Khiry RobinsonRB26NOTBD$459,863RFA
Tony Hills LT31NOTBD$447,352UFA
Kai Forbath K28NOTBD$427,058UFA
Lawrence VirgilDE25NOTBD$333,000ERFA
Austin BrownDT24NOTBD$318,000ERFA
Tim HightowerRB29NOTBD$309,705UFA
James AndersonOLB32NOTBD$275,294UFA
Matt Flynn QB30NOTBD$275,294UFA
Christ OwensCB29NOTBD$206,470UFA
Austin JohnsonFB26NOTBD$120,000RFA
Kendall HunterRB27NOTBD$116,470UFA
Travaris CadetRB26NOTBD$77,647UFA
Ryan SeymourG25NOTBD$68,823RFA

Source: 2016 NFL Free Agents Tracker | Spotrac

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Old 01-27-2016, 09:25 AM   #113
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2016 Dead Cap Money

Name Cap Number
Junior Galette $12,100,000
Brodrick Bunkley $1,612,500
Erik Lorig $500,000
Stanley Jean-Baptiste $482,448
Ronald Powell $84,430
Sean Hickey $6,667
Cyril Lemon $4,000
Markus Pierce-Brewster $4,000
R.J. Harris $3,600
Harold Spears $3,600
Ashaad Mabry $3,600
TOTAL $14,804,845

http://overthecap.com/salary-cap/new-orleans-saints/
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looks like Loomis' magic tricks are about to catch up to the team. I normally don't second guess him but without a Brees restructure, you can forget this team improving besides through the draft. 14 Million tired up to players no longer on the team , good lord that's a lot of money
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
What big receiver on the open market?!? Anquan Boldin?!? That's it.

We have better on our roster than will be available...

We can improve the defensive line with the a top 3 nose tackle in Damon Harrison...

We can improve and round out the linebackers with LB Danny Trevathan...

And we could acquire an affordable guard in Ryan Wendell, allowing the team to move on from Jahri Evans...

And if Colston would restructure and come back as a slot receiver as a 3rd down and end zone specialists, why would we not want him back?
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Old 01-27-2016, 10:28 AM   #116
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Per Over the Cap, the New Orleans Saints Total Cap Number is $160,655,043 with the Top 51 at $159,305,043; (Offense: $76,245,123 Defense: $62,973,185 Special: $5,340,000)

Source: New Orleans Saints Salary Cap - Over the Cap

I'd consider the following targets for 2016 salary cap address...

Player Name2016 Cap No.ActionDead MoneySavings
QB Drew Brees$30,000,000Post 6/1 Cut$10,000,000$20,000,000
FS Jairus Byrd$10,900,000Post 6/1 Cut$3,400,000$7,500,000
OG Jahri Evans$8,200,000Post 6/1 Cut$5,300,000$2,900,000
CB Keenan Lewis$6,350,000Post 6/1 Cut$3,600,000$2,750,000
CB Brandon Browner$6,300,000Post 6/1 Cut$4,050,000$2,250,000
LB Dannell Ellerbe$5,900,000Post 6/1 Cut$700,000$5,200,000
WR Marques Colston$5,900,000Pre/Post 6/1$2,700,000$3,200,000
RT Zach Strief$4,543,750Post 6/1 Cut$1,100,000$3,443,750
LB David Hawthorne$4,510,000Pre/Post 6/1$2,260,000$2,250,000
RB CJ Spiller$4,500,000Post 6/1 Cut$1,250,000$3,250,000
KP Thomas Morstead$4,450,000Post 6/1 Cut$950,000$3,500,000
LB Ramon Humber$1,068,000Post 6/1 Cut$167,000$901,000

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Old 01-27-2016, 10:45 AM   #117
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NFL salary cap will rise above $150 million in 2016 | ProFootballTalk
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Old 01-27-2016, 11:10 PM   #118
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Per Over the Cap, the New Orleans Saints Total Cap Number is $160,655,043 with the Top 51 at $159,305,043; (Offense: $76,245,123 Defense: $62,973,185 Special: $5,340,000)

Source: New Orleans Saints Salary Cap - Over the Cap

I'd consider the following targets for 2016 salary cap address...

Player Name2016 Cap No.ActionDead MoneySavings
QB Drew Brees$30,000,000Post 6/1 Cut$10,000,000$20,000,000
FS Jairus Byrd$10,900,000Post 6/1 Cut$3,400,000$7,500,000
OG Jahri Evans$8,200,000Post 6/1 Cut$5,300,000$2,900,000
CB Keenan Lewis$6,350,000Post 6/1 Cut$3,600,000$2,750,000
CB Brandon Browner$6,300,000Post 6/1 Cut$4,050,000$2,250,000
LB Dannell Ellerbe$5,900,000Post 6/1 Cut$700,000$5,200,000
WR Marques Colston$5,900,000Pre/Post 6/1$2,700,000$3,200,000
RT Zach Strief$4,543,750Post 6/1 Cut$1,100,000$3,443,750
LB David Hawthorne$4,510,000Pre/Post 6/1$2,260,000$2,250,000
RB CJ Spiller$4,500,000Post 6/1 Cut$1,250,000$3,250,000
KP Thomas Morstead$4,450,000Post 6/1 Cut$950,000$3,500,000
LB Ramon Humber$1,068,000Post 6/1 Cut$167,000$901,000
A few observations...

Cutting Jairus Byrd post 1 June puts the Saints right at the projected salary cap...

If Westbank's Injury (K Lewis) looks serious, he could be vulnerable to release...

Jahri Evans is virtually guaranteed a roster spot with his cap number and that's too bad...

Evans hasn't played to his contract in three years and Loomis must fix that issue...

Browner is another contract that is prohibitive to release; pray he wins Comeback Player of the Year?!?

If Browner does, Aaron Glenn should be the first NFL assistant coach to win Coach of the Year!!!

Ellerbe has really flashed at times, but his injury time and cap number make him a likely cap casualty...

Even if Andrus Peat has a great offseason and camp, Strief still provides excellent depth per costs...

Guess we'll find out if it was injury or Payton's doghouse with Spiller and his cap number...

There's no way Morstead is worth those numbers and if a linebacker or NT could be had with Ellerbe and Morstead's savings, it should happen...

Humber's value in depth and special teams is greater than his cap number...

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What big receiver on the open market?!? Anquan Boldin?!? That's it.

We have better on our roster than will be available...

We can improve the defensive line with the a top 3 nose tackle in Damon Harrison...

We can improve and round out the linebackers with LB Danny Trevathan...

And we could acquire an affordable guard in Ryan Wendell, allowing the team to move on from Jahri Evans...

And if Colston would restructure and come back as a slot receiver as a 3rd down and end zone specialists, why would we not want him back?
I thought players like Sanu would be available.

So is Colston gonna start a training regimen and not drop passes or fail to make catches anymore? Oh wait is the oline to blame again? IS Snead gonna put on 20 pounds this offseason and suddenly be electric?

I don't want more 3-7 offensive points against Detroit and Carolina first halfs again next season(yeah Brees always moved the ball at home against any defense).

I know we need defense, but we are never gonna break our ass on defense to win without Brees able to pass for some points. We're not Denver. You want Brees to win ugly games against NE and Pittsburgh like Manning did? Basically we won't know if we will win until the final second.
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