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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by K Major This guy is the ultimate run stuffer. I don't think he'll come cheap. No, but affordable and his impact would be undeniable......

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Old 01-16-2016, 03:37 PM   #61
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This guy is the ultimate run stuffer. I don't think he'll come cheap.
No, but affordable and his impact would be undeniable...
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Old 01-16-2016, 04:52 PM   #62
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Peat in backup role.
So you're saying; we drafted a 1st round lineman to serve in a backup role?
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Old 01-17-2016, 07:20 AM   #63
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Tackle:
Cordy Glenn 26 (Bills) or
Mitchell Schwartz 26 (Browns)

Peat in backup role.
This would never happen. Strief is going no where and Peat is the future at RT. Why waste money when you hve the players in place? We don't have the cap room for luxury signings. If any position is looked at on the o-line it would be Guard. Evans is disapointing and Lelito ans Kelemete are FA's.
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Old 01-17-2016, 07:37 AM   #64
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Peat must play. there is no two ways about it. I bought him dance lesson at Aurthur Murries and paid the instructor to teach him to dance to the right

Will the saints pull the money out for NT Damon Harrison? he will become the hottest DT on the market if the jets do not sign him. Huge upgrade but the price tag will sky rocket based on one huge fact: the guy does not come off the field. For a man of that size to play so many snaps and keep his level of play so high for an entire season, year in and year out is a rare thing to find. That to me says he should be one of the top 5 DL prizes in FA. If he is not and the saints did not go after him I would be very disappointed, yet again, in FA dollars spent.

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Peat must play. there is no two ways about it. I bought him dance lesson at Aurthur Murries and paid the instructor to teach him to dance to the right

Will the saints pull the money out for Wilkerson? he will become the hottest DT on the market if the jets do not sign him. Huge upgrade but the price tag will sky rocket based on one huge fact: the guy does not come off the field. For a man of that size to play so many snaps and keep his level of play so high for an entire season, year in and year out is a rare thing to find. That to me says he should be one of the top 5 DL prizes in FA. If he is not and the saints did not go after him I would be very disappointed, yet again, in FA dollars spent.
We don't have a shot at Wilkerson, nor does anyone else. The jets GM has already made it clear they are willing to use the franchise tag if they can't work out a deal.
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Old 01-17-2016, 07:56 AM   #66
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I stand corrected NT Damon Harrison was the one i was talking about. Stuck in Boston I have watched this space eater play for years and I hold him in highest of regards. The guy is amazing. Geno Atkins money is not far fetched

Geno Atkins signed a 5 year, $53,327,000 contract with the Cincinnati Bengals, including a $15,000,000 signing bonus, $15,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $10,665,400.

Money the saint just do not have. But if the saints did and sold out a bunch of players I actually would understand it. Unlike Byrd who still needs help to reap the rewards of his play Harrison alone will change the the DL for years to come.
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I stand corrected NT Damon Harrison was the one i was talking about. Stuck in Boston I have watched this space eater play for years and I hold him in highest of regards. The guy is amazing. Geno Atkins money is not far fetched

Geno Atkins signed a 5 year, $53,327,000 contract with the Cincinnati Bengals, including a $15,000,000 signing bonus, $15,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $10,665,400.

Money the saint just do not have. But if the saints did and sold out a bunch of players I actually would understand it. Unlike Byrd who still needs help to reap the rewards of his play Harrison alone will change the the DL for years to come.
Lot of money for a guy to come in and change schemes with and unproven DC and Johnson running the D line. I love Harrison but Allen as DC is still a long shot in big games to get it done.
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Drew Brees, Jahri Evans, Zach Strief, Marques Colston are among you're biggest cap eaters...

And Morstead's play in no way justifies his salary...
Pay cut or get another one!
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Old 01-17-2016, 12:14 PM   #69
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Full list of Free Agents and I bolded the ones that I think we should sign:

Quarterbacks

Kirk Cousins
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Sam Bradford
Brock Osweiler
Chase Daniel
Matt Moore
Tarvaris Jackson
Chad Henne
Matt Schaub
Brandon Weeden
Jimmy Clausen
Colt McCoy
Matt Hasselbeck
Drew Stanton
Dan Orlovsky
Bruce Gradkowski
Charlie Whitehurst
T.J. Yates
Matt Cassel
Luke McCown
Scott Tolzien
Michael Vick
Matt Flynn Re-Sign
Kellen Clemens
Josh Freeman

Let McCown go and let the backups start to prepare for life without Drew.

Running Backs

Matt Forte
Doug Martin
Lamar Miller
Chris Ivory
James Starks
Chris Johnson
Alfred Morris
LeGarrette Blount
Ronnie Hillman
Tim Hightower Re-sign
Bilal Powell
Ahmad Bradshaw
Chris Polk
Bobby Rainey
Stevan Ridley
Pierre Thomas
Lance Dunbar
Shaun Draughn
Robert Turbin
Bryce Brown
Matt Asiata
Reggie Bush
Dan Herron
DuJuan Harris
Travaris Cadet
Jordan Todman
Fred Jackson
Steven Jackson
Kendall Hunter
Jacquizz Rodgers
Bernard Pierce

OK at running back with the 2 Re-Signs Ingram, Spiller and Hunter

Fullbacks

Mike Tolbert
John Kuhn
Darrel Young
Cory Harkey
Will Johnson
Will Tukuafu
Tyler Clutts

OK at Fullback

Wide Receivers

Alshon Jeffery
Travis Benjamin
Marvin Jones
Anquan Boldin
Rishard Matthews
Rueben Randle
James Jones
Brian Quick
Mohamed Sanu
Percy Harvin
Andre Holmes
Jermaine Kearse
Nate Washington
Leonard Hankerson
Marc Mariani
Lance Moore
Terrelle Pryor
Hakeem Nicks
Rod Streater
Jordan Norwood
Darrius Heyward-Bey
Keshawn Martin
Chris Givens
Wes Welker
Andre Caldwell
David Nelson
Bryan Walters
Seyi Ajirotutu
Jason Avant
Ricardo Lockette
Nick Toon
Brandon Gibson
Brandon Tate
Jacoby Jones

Release Colston. Save Money. Pick up Mathews and Sanu

Tight Ends

Antonio Gates
Ladarius Green
Dwayne Allen
Vernon Davis
Coby Fleener
Ben Watson Re-Sign
Zach Miller
Marcedes Lewis
Craig Stevens
Clay Harbor
Jermaine Gresham
James Hanna
Logan Paulsen
Daniel Fells
Garrett Celek
Tony Moeaki
Rhett Ellison
Michael Hoomanawanui Re-Sign
Rob Housler
David Johnson
Kellen Davis
Anthony McCoy
John Phillips
Chase Coffman
Dorin Dickerson

OK at Tight End

Offensive Tackles

Cordy Glenn
Russell Okung
Donald Penn
Kelvin Beachum
Andre Smith
Mitchell Schwartz
Joseph Barksdale
Bobby Massie
Chris Clark
Ryan Harris
Donald Stephenson
Byron Bell
Jordan Mills
Chris Hairston
Sam Young
Jake Long
Don Barclay
Byron Stingily
Mike Adams
Jason Fox
Bradley Sowell
J'Marcus Webb
Bryce Harris
Jeff Linkenbach
Tyler Polumbus
Eric Winston
Khalif Barnes
Charles Brown
Ben Ijalana

Get the best Left Tackle in the first round and the best Right Tackle in the third round of the draft.

Interior Offensive Linemen

Alex Mack
Kelechi Osemele
Alex Boone
Jeff Allen
Richie Incognito
Brandon Brooks
Ramon Foster
Evan Mathis
Ben Jones
Stefen Wisniewski
Ryan Wendell
Mike Harris
J.R. Sweezy
Chris Chester
Manuel Ramirez
Lyle Sendlein
Amini Silatolu
Will Montgomery
Lance Louis
Ted Larsen
Willie Colon
Tony Bergstrom
Josh LeRibeus
J.D. Walton
Tim Barnes
Mackenzy Bernadeau
Chris Scott
Dallas Reynolds
Mike McGlynn
Vlad Ducasse
Fernando Velasco
Shelley Smith
Brandon Mosley
Doug Legursky
Gino Gradkowski
Johnnie Troutman
Joe Looney
Jamon Meredith

OK at Guard

Defensive Linemen

Muhammad Wilkerson
Malik Jackson
Ian Williams
Nick Fairley
Derek Wolfe (Re-signed 4-year, $36.7M deal with DEN)
Jaye Howard
Damon Harrison
Haloti Ngata
Terrance Knighton
Cedric Thornton
Vinny Curry
Robert Ayers
Brandon Mebane
Adrian Clayborn
Akiem Hicks
Steve McLendon
B.J. Raji
Jason Jones
Tyrunn Walker
Justin Tuck
Mike DeVito
Henry Melton
Kevin Williams
Al Woods
Letroy Guion
Antonio Smith
Jared Crick
Kendall Reyes
Ahtyba Rubin
Cullen Jenkins
Sammie Lee Hill
Leger Douzable
Billy Winn
Kyle Love
Kedric Golston
Alex Carrington
Pat Sims
Brandon Thompson
Mitch Unrein
Red Bryant
Tony McDaniel
Cam Thomas
Kenrick Ellis
Corey Wootton
Jarvis Jenkins
Stephen Bowen
Greg Scruggs
Ricardo Mathews
Mike Martin
Jermelle Cudjo
Da'Quan Bowers
Barry Cofield
Demarcus Dobbs
Jack Crawford
Clifton Geathers

Pick up Knighton and Draft best Defensive Tackle in the 2nd round.

Edge Defenders

Von Miller
Jason Pierre-Paul
Olivier Vernon
Greg Hardy
Aldon Smith
Tamba Hali
Bruce Irvin
William Hayes
Nick Perry
Courtney Upshaw
Dwight Freeney
Kroy Biermann
Wallace Gilberry
Mike Neal
Junior Galette
Darryl Tapp
Jeremy Mincey
Derrick Shelby
Andre Branch
Eugene Sims
Sam Acho
LaMarr Woodley
Calvin Pace
Albert McClellan
Justin Trattou
Frank Zombo
Chris Carter
Larry English
Frank Alexander
Anthony Spencer
George Selvie

Sign Miller and Paul. Draft 1 in the later rounds.

Inside Linebackers

Jerrell Freeman
Danny Trevathan
Derrick Johnson
Craig Robertson
Rolando McClain
Erin Henderson
Demario Davis
Mason Foster
Sean Spence
Shea McClellin
Jasper Brinkley
Keenan Robinson
Audie Cole
Joe Mays
Dane Fletcher
Kelvin Sheppard
Jamari Lattimore
Tank Carder
Casey Matthews

OK at Middle Linebacker

4-3 Outside Linebackers

Zach Brown
Mark Barron
Tahir Whitehead
Vincent Rey
Emmanuel Lamur
Chad Greenway
Nigel Bradham
Sean Weatherspoon
Kyle Wilber
Spencer Paysinger
Jason Trusnik
Travis Lewis
Philip Wheeler
Michael Morgan

OK at 4-3 Linebackers. Draft 1 in the later rounds.

Cornerbacks

Josh Norman
Janoris Jenkins
Prince Amukamara
Casey Hayward
Sean Smith
Pacman Jones
Trumaine Johnson
Patrick Robinson
Brandon Boykin
Leon Hall
Jerraud Powers
Tracy Porter
Terence Newman
Greg Toler
Jeremy Lane
Will Blackmon
Coty Sensabaugh
Charles Tillman
William Gay
Tarell Brown
Trumaine McBride
Josh Robinson
Morris Claiborne
Shareece Wright
Ron Brooks
Nolan Carroll
Antwon Blake
Sterling Moore
E.J. Biggers
Marcus Sherels
Darrin Walls
Cary Williams
Kyle Wilson Re-Sign
Cortland Finnegan
Johnson Bademosi
Jamell Fleming
Corey White
Alan Ball
Josh Wilson
Jayron Hosley
Mike Jenkins
Cassius Vaughn
Sherrick McManis
Brandon Harris

Release Browner. Save Money. Pick up serviceable backup or 2

Safeties

Eric Berry
Eric Weddle
Reggie Nelson
Tashaun Gipson
George Iloka
Rashad Johnson
Charles Woodson
Rodney McLeod
Walter Thurmond III
Tyvon Branch
Roman Harper
Husain Abdullah
Andrew Sendejo
Isa Abdul-Quddus
James Ihedigbo
Rafael Bush Re-Sign
Dwight Lowery
David Bruton
Chris Clemons
Will Allen
Keith Tandy
Tavon Wilson
Robert Blanton
Louis Delmas
Brandon Meriweather
Omar Bolden
Quintin Demps
Antonio Allen
Ryan Mundy
Nate Ebner
Larry Asante
Sean Richardson
Jaiquawn Jarrett
Colt Anderson
Chris Conte
Taylor Mays
Sherrod Martin
Charles Godfrey
Jamarca Sanford Re-Sign
Shiloh Keo
Robert Golden
Craig Dahl
Brandian Ross
Chris Prosinski
Danny McCray

Draft 1 in the 4 round and 1 in the 5th round of the draft.

Kickers

Justin Tucker
Mason Crosby
Josh Brown
Greg Zuerlein
Adam Vinatieri
Phil Dawson
Nick Novak
Kai Forbath Re-Sign
Shayne Graham
Randy Bullock

OK at Kicker

Punters

Marquette King
Shane Lechler
Jon Ryan
Bryan Anger
Brad Nortman

Release Morstead and pickup best Punter available. Save Money.

Restricted Free Agents

C.J. Anderson
Brandon Marshall
Jacquies Smith
Ryan Schraeder
Ryan Davis

The theory with adding Paul, Miller and Knighton you will take a lot of pressure of the secondary.

Offensive line needs to protect Drew. He's not getting any younger.

Savings:
Drew Brees, Re-Structure $$$$????
Morstead $3,647,500
Colston $7,260,000
Zach Strief either re-negotiate or release $4,000,000
Kevin Williams $1,500,000
Luke McCown $1,050,000
Brandon Browner $5,000,000

We are already 6.9 million over the cap. With just the re-structure for Drew we can make that up and then some freeing up money to sign Free Agents and draft picks.

The average age of our team is 25.19 so we're relatively young.

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Old 01-17-2016, 01:16 PM   #70
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Only your savings are way out
Colston,cutting saves $3.2ml
Morstead $3.25
Strief $1.24
Browner saves $950k
And McCown and Williams saves nothing as they are FA

So dropping all them players just gets us under the cap and needing to replace them all
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