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Old 07-13-2016, 07:42 AM   #411
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Likely no room for Reggie Bush on Saints roster, Sean Payton tells Rich Eisen Show | Saints | theadvocate.com

“I’m sure he’s going to play this year,” Payton said in a Monday appearance on The Rich Eisen Show. “I don’t know if our roster is going to allow that right now.”

New Orleans already has plenty of options at the satellite back role Bush plays in Payton’s offense. C.J. Spiller is back and fully healthy, the Saints still have Travaris Cadet and New Orleans has spent two consecutive seventh-round picks on Marcus Murphy and Daniel Lasco, who both have the skill set to play the role.


Commentary: So Ingram is backed by Hightower and Spiller, Cadet, Murphy and Lasco compete for the ScatBack...

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How new additions on offense can help Saints within 10-yard line

BY NICK UNDERHILL | THE ADVOCATE
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JUL 7, 2016 - 11:04 AM

The New Orleans Saints didn't have many issues on offense last year. But there was one play that highlighted one of the underrated, nagging obstacles the unit faced.

It came last fall against the Philadelphia Eagles. Operating from the 3-yard line, quarterback Drew Brees took the snap and faced immediate pressure. As things quickly closed in around him, he fled to the right side of the pocket and was eventually forced to toss the ball up and pray for the best.

The 6-foot-4 Marques Colston was in single coverage on the left side of the field in single coverage. Turning that way wasn't an option. His options to the right were Willie Snead and Brandin Cooks. He chose Snead.

It’s debatable if Brees ever saw his target, who was fighting through double coverage. But he tossed the ball up anyways, and it fell well beyond Snead in the back corner of the end zone. Colston might have had a shot at getting a hand on the ball with a well-timed jump, but not the 5-foot-11 Snead.

To call this a critical issue for the passing offense might be overstating things. Brees attempted 30 passes last season from 10 yards and in last season. Eleven of those resulted in touchdowns. However, he only completed 17 of his overall attempts, which is one of the lower percentages of his career.

The grading scale here might be harsh, but the efficiency could have been better. The Saints admit it, too...


Source: How new additions on offense can help Saints within 10-yard line | Saints | theadvocate.com

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 July PreCamp

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 -Drew Brees, 7 - Luke McCown, 18 - Garrett Grayson

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 34 - Tim Hightower, 28 - C.J. Spiller, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 23 - Marcus Murphy, 36 - Daniel Lasco

FB (1) 35 - Austin Johnson, 39 - Sione Houma

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 15 - Vincent Brown, 81 - Jordan Williams, 85 - Jared Dangerfield, 12 - Kyle Prater

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 70 - Ryker Mathews, 79 - Joseph Cheek

LG (2) 68 - Tim Lelito, 65 - Senio Kelemete, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen, 61 - Marcus Henry

RG (1) 75 - Andrus Peat, 62 - Cyril Lemon, 71 - Kaleb Eulls

RT (1) 64 - Zach Strief, 74 - Tyrus Thompson, 67 - Avery Young

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 88 - RaShaun Allen, 86 - Chris Manhertz

SR (2) 10 - Brandin Cooks, 83 - Willie Snead, 14 - R.J. Harris, 11 - Reggie Bell, 87 - TommyLee Lewis, 19 - Jake Lampmann


DEFENSE

SDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 91 - Kasim Edebali, 63 - Darryl Tapp, 77 - D.J. Pettway

DT (3) 99 - Sheldon Rankins, 90 - Nick Fairley, 93 - David Onyemata, 69 - C.J. Wilson

NT (2) 92 - John Jenkins, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry, 76 - Lawrence Virgil

WDE (2) 98 - Bobby Richardson, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 55 - Davis Tull, *44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 56 - Mike Mauti, 57 - Dillon Lee

MLB (2) 53 - James Laurinaitis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 51 - Jeff Schoettmer

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 54 - Nate Stupar, 97 - Tony Steward

RCB (3) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 27 - Damian Swann, 29 - Tony Carter, 46 - Ken Crawley, 49 - De’Vante Harris

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 30 - Erik Harris, 41 - Roman Harper

FS (3) 31 - Jairus Byrd, 48 - Vonn Bell, 26 - Trae Elston, 42 - Alden Darby

LCB (3) 21 - Keenan Lewis, 25 - P.J. Williams, 20 - Brian Dixon, 37 - Brandon Dixon, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt


KICKING

K (1) 5 - Kai Forbath, 3 - Connor Barth

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher, 45 - Garrett Griffin


RESERVE/INJURED

FS 33 - Jamarca Sanford (Prior to Cut to 75)

CB 24 - Kyle Wilson (Prior to Cut to 75)

DE 76 - Mitchell Loewen (NFIN)

*LB 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha hasn't been officially designated IR nor IR-To Return

Projected Starter

Reserve/Injured

Draft Selection/UDRFA/Future

Note: Jersey Numbers based on Nola.com, Twitter, and NewOrleansSaints.com Images and Reports

Note: Roster Unit Nos.: Offense - 43, Defense - 42, Kicking - 5, Total Roster - 90

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
When is the first day in full gear? I didn't see it mentioned.

Edit: July 30. Sorry JP ... I need glasses .
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When is the first day in full gear? I didn't see it mentioned.

Edit: July 30. Sorry JP ... I need glasses .
Trying to get the roster cut down dates to 75 and 53...
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Wow...

RANKING ALL 32 NFL RUNNING BACK UNITS

Le'Veon Bell and the Pittsburgh Steelers grab the No. 1 spot in PFF's ranking of NFL RB units entering the 2016 season.

MIKE RENNER | 1 DAY AGO


(Photo by Justin K. Aller/Getty Images)(Photo by Justin K. Aller/Getty Images)
On the precipice of the 2016 season, the PFF analysis crew has teamed up to rank the league’s position groups from top to bottom. Up today are the running backs. There were no hard-and-fast guidelines, other than to give credence to the players most likely to receive carries, and to assume full health for all players. Without further ado, let’s see where each team ended up...


21. New Orleans Saints
Starter: Mark Ingram

Backups: C.J. Spiller, Daniel Lasco

Key stat: C.J. Spiller set the PFF record for elusive rating with the Bills in 2012 (94.6).

It’s sad how much injuries have turned C.J. Spiller from one of the most dynamic players in the NFL into an average third-down back. On 34 catches last season, Spiller broke just two tackles. Mark Ingram will likely see the bulk of the carries again, and his steadiness might be a tad underrated; 60 percent of his yards have come after contact the past four years.
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Cooks, Boldin, Snead, Thomas and Player to be named?

Plus the Tight Ends and ScatBacks - that would be potent...

I like Boldin in a share with the rookie Thomas, if he's okay with the role...
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Old 07-15-2016, 05:09 AM   #420
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despite all the love for the DT moves, the saints will need a DT that can fill the NT role better. yep doubling down on speed and quickness at DT is only good if you can bull rush with regularity. I do not see that on the roster.

If the saints think they have the next Muhammad Wilkerson, a DT that is so well rounded that he can play anywhere up front on the roster they will be disappointed. More importantly a DT has to have great instincts and a very high football IQ to work in this scheme. If not they will be trapped blocked right out of the dome. In all honesty this is what DA is going to try to do with the players he has.

DT (3) 99 - Sheldon Rankins, 90 - Nick Fairley, 93 - David Onyemata

Can Nick Fairley become the player he can be? I think he is his own worse enemy. Skill set is there but does he have the football IQ and instincts to handle this scheme? I say yes and blame lack of studying and too much living the high life. He become a self inflated fat cat after the draft. It all went to his head. Is he grounded and more importantly is he a player that shows up when contract time is right around the corner?

Sheldon is a sit back and see what we does player IMO. Over hyped or not? either way he should be a solid player.

Onyemata god only knows

Tyeler Davison and John Jenkins still have a lot to prove.

I am looking for Tyeler to over take Jenkins by seasons end if he can handle the mental part of the game. Once again DT need to be smart to make this scheme work. If not they will be trapped blocked right out of the dome.

John Jenkins time with saints might be over in 2017. improvement or need is his only hopes of staying.

So DT has plenty of questions to answer and plenty of players that are replaceable.

2017 returning players
DT (3) 99 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata
NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison,

90 - Nick Fairley is a huge talented question mark

By season end we will feel a bit better about DT but that is about it

1 - Do we cut our loses with Byrd and throw money at a Muhammad Wilkerson?

Issue is our own FA and is this the last year of Byrd. Can Vonn Bell replace Byrd or at the least can CB play step up enough to make Bell work as a FS? So safety is the a huge key. David Onyemata is a wild card here.

2 - So do you roll the dice in the draft?

Jonathan Allen, DE/DT, Alabama - a fav
Chris Wormley, DE/DT, Michigan - watch list

Both have that same kind of skill set and size of a Wilkerson.

I really do not see a True NT solution out there in FA or the draft at this time.

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Is a DT Instincts/football IQ lacking in DA attacking defense?
That DT will be trapped blocked right out of the dome.
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