Trade Down at 12?

hagan714 · 02-17-2016, 05:23 AM

Originally Posted by lsutigerfan

We're talking about a possible franchise QB, if the Rams want a QB that bad, I'd force them to part with a 2nd rounder or possibly Alec Ogletree.

Alec Ogletree? boy that brings up old draft wounds But cap hit?

I would settle for two of the better backups, WLB Mark Barron and CB Trumaine Johnson. Two solid up and coming young pups that would be an upgrade and cap friendly for at least the next 4 years.

hitta · 02-17-2016, 08:27 AM

Trading down would be a good idea this year. We have a lot of positions that need filling and we need as many picks as we can to do it. We lack cap space and the draft is the best place to fix our problems.

Rugby Saint II · 02-17-2016, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by hitta

Trading down would be a good idea this year. We have a lot of positions that need filling and we need as many picks as we can to do it. We lack cap space and the draft is the best place to fix our problems.

If we can replicate last years draft with a hit on ALL draft picks then I would be willing to trade down and get an additional early round pick. Ireland seems to have the eye for defense that Payton has for offense.

If we can nail two front seven picks in the draft we can compete with anyone if we stay healthy. We aren't as far away as some people think. If we had just fielded our starters throughout the year we'd have a winning record and possibly made a little run in the playoffs. We have holes but some of our depth will step into a starting role.(think of Snead last year)
The schedule looks tougher than last year but so does our team.

hagan714 · 02-19-2016, 02:11 AM

I may question the overall talent level in top ten and some of the hype for a few in the top twenty.

But from that point on it has a nice slow decline all the way through day two. I really like this draft all the way through the 4th.

Day three has more than a few really interesting risk picks.

I am still a strong believer to build a team you gotta get player that stick on the club in day 2. That is how the Pats always seem to have little cap issues. mid round picks that step up and play when players are lost to FA because they want more than the wants to pay the bench is deep enough to absorb the lose.

jeanpierre · 02-26-2016, 05:16 PM

Have some pre-negotitated trades on Ready 5 so as to move back and pick up a R2 or R3 pick and select a big defensive end/tackle like Jarran Reed later in the first...

But wouldn't pull the trigger right away as a Top 5 talent almost always falls...

NonieT · 02-26-2016, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83

No you stay at 12 and draft Jaylen Smith LB Norte Dame

Who is probably going to be red-shirted this season? No thanks. There are plenty of good LB in this draft. Cravens for example and we can probably get him in the 2nd round.

Danno · 02-26-2016, 06:22 PM

Can anyone guess the last time we traded down with our 1st round pick?

Hint... Rhymes with Nero!

ScottF · 02-26-2016, 06:32 PM

History says that we have done considerably better with late picks than early ones
I'd much rather see a late first BPA than a costly move for unproven talent.

FA and later round gems are our forte- Too many Usama Youngs, Cie Grants, SJBs, Chip Vaughns, etc

vpheughan · 02-27-2016, 10:15 AM

Oh yes, I remember that guy! Absolute Zero, he was a great QB/WR/LB/DE/DT/TE/PK/P but didn't pan out. Turned out he wasn't A BEAST, had no AIR IN THE TIRES and NOTHING IN THE TANK, would't play ON THE CHEAP for the HOMETOWN DISCOUNT and didn't TRUST IN SPAGS or MICKEY!! A bitter disappointment!!

Danno · 02-28-2016, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

History says that we have done considerably better with late picks than early ones
I'd much rather see a late first BPA than a costly move for unproven talent.

FA and later round gems are our forte- Too many Usama Youngs, Cie Grants, SJBs, Chip Vaughns, etc

I think we've kinda sucked with the late rounders too.

Who was the last late round pick that turned out to be great?

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02-17-2016, 05:23 AM	#21
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Trade Down at 12? Originally Posted by lsutigerfan We're talking about a possible franchise QB, if the Rams want a QB that bad, I'd force them to part with a 2nd rounder or possibly Alec Ogletree. Alec Ogletree? boy that brings up old draft wounds But cap hit? I would settle for two of the better backups, WLB Mark Barron and CB Trumaine Johnson. Two solid up and coming young pups that would be an upgrade and cap friendly for at least the next 4 years. lsutigerfan and Rugby Saint II like this.

02-17-2016, 08:27 AM	#22
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,300	Re: Trade Down at 12? Trading down would be a good idea this year. We have a lot of positions that need filling and we need as many picks as we can to do it. We lack cap space and the draft is the best place to fix our problems. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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02-17-2016, 12:40 PM	#23
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,720	Re: Trade Down at 12? Originally Posted by hitta Trading down would be a good idea this year. We have a lot of positions that need filling and we need as many picks as we can to do it. We lack cap space and the draft is the best place to fix our problems. If we can replicate last years draft with a hit on ALL draft picks then I would be willing to trade down and get an additional early round pick. Ireland seems to have the eye for defense that Payton has for offense. If we can nail two front seven picks in the draft we can compete with anyone if we stay healthy. We aren't as far away as some people think. If we had just fielded our starters throughout the year we'd have a winning record and possibly made a little run in the playoffs. We have holes but some of our depth will step into a starting role.(think of Snead last year) The schedule looks tougher than last year but so does our team. hagan714 likes this.
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02-19-2016, 02:11 AM	#24
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Trade Down at 12? I may question the overall talent level in top ten and some of the hype for a few in the top twenty. But from that point on it has a nice slow decline all the way through day two. I really like this draft all the way through the 4th. Day three has more than a few really interesting risk picks. I am still a strong believer to build a team you gotta get player that stick on the club in day 2. That is how the Pats always seem to have little cap issues. mid round picks that step up and play when players are lost to FA because they want more than the wants to pay the bench is deep enough to absorb the lose.
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02-26-2016, 05:16 PM	#25
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NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Trade Down at 12? Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 No you stay at 12 and draft Jaylen Smith LB Norte Dame Who is probably going to be red-shirted this season? No thanks. There are plenty of good LB in this draft. Cravens for example and we can probably get him in the 2nd round. WhoDatFan26 likes this.
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02-26-2016, 06:22 PM	#27
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: Trade Down at 12? Can anyone guess the last time we traded down with our 1st round pick? Hint... Rhymes with Nero! hagan714 likes this.

02-26-2016, 06:32 PM	#28
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Trade Down at 12? History says that we have done considerably better with late picks than early ones I'd much rather see a late first BPA than a costly move for unproven talent. FA and later round gems are our forte- Too many Usama Youngs, Cie Grants, SJBs, Chip Vaughns, etc

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02-28-2016, 08:14 PM	#30
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: Trade Down at 12? Originally Posted by ScottF History says that we have done considerably better with late picks than early ones I'd much rather see a late first BPA than a costly move for unproven talent. FA and later round gems are our forte- Too many Usama Youngs, Cie Grants, SJBs, Chip Vaughns, etc I think we've kinda sucked with the late rounders too. Who was the last late round pick that turned out to be great?

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