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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I hope and believe that the scouting, drafting and signing of Free agents will be better with Ireland and the new scouts onboard. If you combine that with Loomis genius about managing the cap we could have a really good ...

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Old 02-17-2016, 02:59 PM   #11
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I hope and believe that the scouting, drafting and signing of Free agents will be better with Ireland and the new scouts onboard. If you combine that with Loomis genius about managing the cap we could have a really good thing going soon.
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Re: Saints convert Cam Jordan's roster bonus into signing bonus. Creating $4.8 million in cap space.

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Year after year people still doubt Loomis' cap skills.

We're 8 million UNDER the cap right now, and I'm sure more to come.
Count me in among those who still doubt him. What he's doing here is not a skill. He's dropping players who he over-paid in the first place, and often restructuring contracts that hurt us down the road. The Jordan thing makes sense, and is an easy move. An extension with Brees is about as obvious as it gets.

There are multiple reasons for this team's suckage in recent years, and Loomis' poor contracts and constant back-loading are among them. I've said that you can't afford to worry about dead money moving forward. Some people thought this team should hang onto Browner because of the dead money, but that makes zero sense. That being said, it still looks bad on Mickey's part that he's got that much wasted money floating around.
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If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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Re: Saints convert Cam Jordan's roster bonus into signing bonus. Creating $4.8 million in cap space.

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Brees and Byrd are next. Should get another 15 million out of that. With 18 million of the dead money freeing up next year we should have a bright future.
Byrd converted his 6 million of his roster bonus to bonus money in 2015.. Really don't see Loomis giving him anymore money adding to future dead money.. Needless to say Byrd is not worth the money he's received to this point regardless of the reason..
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Re: Saints convert Cam Jordan's roster bonus into signing bonus. Creating $4.8 million in cap space.

Let's face it, Loomis lost his way during and after Bountygate. Remember, he was suspended too. I'm sure it was crushing to him and the organization.

2012 was a lost season. 2013 was too late to rekendle the fire from 2009. 2014 was a totally lost season.

2015 was the first season of massive purge and starting over. I like most of what happened last offseason, especially the draft. Browner was the only sketchy contract.

Byrd has been a post-Bountygate-poop-idiot decision since 2014 where Loomis paid the man and we got laughed at by Bills fans because Byrd could barely make an entire season.

I do think Loomis is back on track. How well we do in the draft this year will tell the story.
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If we extend Brees and re work Byrd, we might have 20 mil in cap space... I didn't think we would be in the market for big time FAs but now everything is at least in reach.
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Re: Saints convert Cam Jordan's roster bonus into signing bonus. Creating $4.8 million in cap space.

Originally Posted by Danno View Post
Year after year people still doubt Loomis' cap skills.

We're 8 million UNDER the cap right now, and I'm sure more to come.
Yes.
This stuff isn't accidental. Loomis has had a few misteps, but you know that as soon as he signed Jordan's deal that this is what he had in mind
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Re: Saints convert Cam Jordan's roster bonus into signing bonus. Creating $4.8 million in cap space.

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If we extend Brees and re work Byrd, we might have 20 mil in cap space... I didn't think we would be in the market for big time FAs but now everything is at least in reach.
True, and while we still have some big time contracts to hand out to some of our own, I can't help but feel we're going after someone. A pass rush specialist perhaps? A stud OLB? An interior D-lineman?
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So who does Buffalo have available that we could go after? LOL
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Re: Saints convert Cam Jordan's roster bonus into signing bonus. Creating $4.8 million in cap space.

I wonder what the price tag would be on Mario Williams and Tamba Hali.
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Thank you, Cam Jordan. Team player off the field. This wouldnt have been possibe without his cooperation.

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