Why extend Haslett's contract?

shadowdrinker · 02-28-2005, 09:50 PM

I know what your saying...An I have read the same sort of things before...

However..Tags and crew are just convinced that L.A. is a must have...

You and I, and several others will agree that L.A. is a wild goose chase..many have tried to corner the marketin that area...all have eventually failed...

Whether we like it or not, L.A. is big time on the list of things to do, and it\'s coming down to crunch time on meeting the propose deadline of getting a team in there...We are top on the list...or, at least in the top 2...

saintz08 · 02-28-2005, 10:25 PM

However..Tags and crew are just convinced that L.A. is a must have...

It makes sense for the 2008 season opener of the Los Angeles Diablos .

Tag sees the huge market factor , a market that is 50 % Hispanic with these numbers growing daily . The Coliseum is a pit even the Raider players were afraid to go in and out of . The Rose Bowl and Anaheim stadium are the only other venues even close enough to hold an N.F.L. game in . The Rose Bowl is not interested from last I heard and Anaheim stadium would put the team behind the orange curtain with the most finiky fan base .

Another rumor in the wind is the the league is going to deny the sale of the Vikings to the prospective owner based upon his financial situation . He has the money to get the Vikes but not much more .....

shadowdrinker · 03-01-2005, 04:08 AM

Another rumor in the wind is the the league is going to deny the sale of the Vikings to the prospective owner based upon his financial situation . He has the money to get the Vikes but not much more ..... [/quote:847df3eda1]

I have heard about this too..He made his money in Plastic cups and stuff like that I believe...and while he would ahev the money..The League can nay afford a Bankrupt Owner, who mave have gotten in over his head...The Financial Office will have the final say...

However..The League also has interest in seeing the first black Owner come into the League..and that may come into play...

saintz08 · 03-01-2005, 11:42 AM

The League can nay afford a Bankrupt Owner, who mave have gotten in over his head...The Financial Office will have the final say...

If they want a team in the Los Angeles area so bad why wouldn\'t the league block the sale and bring in an owner from the Los Angeles area to fill that void .

The Los Angeles area is a lot more finicky about it\'s teams , the goal should be to start from scratch , New Team with a new name and logo .Initial sales would boom because of the inagural season merchandise .

Los Angeles Matadors

If they move someone elses team to Los Angeles then they will be moving that team back in 5 years .

If the Raiders did not make it with the black and silver and the crossbones , no way the Saints in black and gold and a French Crest on the side of their helmet would .

johnnythesaint · 03-01-2005, 12:13 PM

Unless they pull a tennesee oilers to tennesee titans kind of transformation once they are there

shadowdrinker · 03-01-2005, 12:33 PM

If they want a team in the Los Angeles area so bad why wouldn\'t the league block the sale and bring in an owner from the Los Angeles area to fill that void .

I think the Leagus isn\'t overly concerned with the Vikings somehow screwing up the L.A. thing, by selling, or whatever..

The only real interset shown by an Owner to move to L.A. has come from Benson...He is the only one who has mentioned out in the open that moving was a strong possibility...

The other Owners may be using the L.A. scenario as a lure to get more funding for a new Stadium...But none have hinted or even mentioned the possibility of the teamactually moving if they didn\'t get thier way...Benson has...

I don\'t think the League as a whole has too many concerns as to who will be moving...all fingers, including that of the Team Owner, point in this direction..

WhoDat · 03-01-2005, 01:50 PM

So far, I like the direction this team is headed. I like the plan.

Hey Billy, I\'m not trying to pick on you, but what, exactly, is that direction?

As far as I can tell, this looks exactly like the past three or four offseasons.

Haslett promises BIG changes that will really work this time. In reality, the team lets coaches leave and just promotes some position coach with some questions as to his performance IN NEW ORLEANS. Then they hire some veteran position coaches and convince the fans that this will fix everything. In FA, they tagged Howard, and are talking about making very few moves, maybe at OG or S - nevermind LB...

Yes, I\'m omitting a number of rumors, and speculation. I\'m making a point - and that is that things don\'t seem to be going in a new or different direction to me. So seriously, what do you see that I\'m missing?

BreesFN9 · 03-01-2005, 02:03 PM

I\'m with WhoDat on this one. I was surprised that even with the 4 wins to end out the season Haslett was able to keep his job. They did win but there were several coaching decisions or non decisions that could\'ve cost any one of those remaining games. Letting D Brooks run free at A Brooks all day without double teaming him in the TB games is just one. He seems to let the problems that go on, Go on just a little too long in my mind.....Kinda sounds like Benson???

baronm · 03-01-2005, 02:05 PM

I\'m starting to wonder if the theory about NEw orleans not attracting good football people is true.

GumboBC · 03-01-2005, 02:13 PM

WhoDat --

Obviously we BOTH see all the mistakes Haslett and co. have made in the past. It seems you think the mistakes will continue or that we will get no better as long as Haslett and co. are in charge.

That\'s where we differ. I\'m not saying Haslett is gonna get the job done, I really have no way of knowing that. If you want to point to the past and make your case against Haslett then, you win. In the past Haslett has failed. There\'s no changing that.

Why do I like the direction of this team?

Well, for one, I think Haslett got away from the smash-mouth style on both offense and defense and went finesse on us. And as a result, I think we\'ve gotten beat-up on both sides of the ball.

Maybe I\'m old-school. But, I believe games are won and lost in the trenches. Our offensive line has really killed us, in one way or anothe, the past couple of seasons. Haslett appears to be addressing that this offseason. So, I like the direction he is going with the offensive line.

Also, penalties have killed us on offense. Haslett is simplifying the offensive termonology and reducing the number of redudant plays. I think that will help. It makes sense to ME. I like that change.

Haslett is also planning to utilize Deuce more in both the runniing and passing game. I like the direction he is going there.

Mike Sheppard is going to utlize more offensive sets with Deuce and Aaron Stecker on the field together with Stecker getting more screen passess. I like the sound of that.

On defense, it looks like Tebucky is gone and we\'re going to get a safety that will make some plays. I like the sound of that.

On defense they changed the \"scheme\" the last 4-games and I saw the biggest improvement in years. I like the direction they are headed there.

We\'ve got Mike McKenzie from jump this year. I like that.

We will also have another number one pick this year. Most likely on defense.

That\'s some of the more positive things I see...

02-28-2005, 09:50 PM	#11
shadowdrinker Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 517	Why extend Haslett's contract? I know what your saying...An I have read the same sort of things before... However..Tags and crew are just convinced that L.A. is a must have... You and I, and several others will agree that L.A. is a wild goose chase..many have tried to corner the marketin that area...all have eventually failed... Whether we like it or not, L.A. is big time on the list of things to do, and it\'s coming down to crunch time on meeting the propose deadline of getting a team in there...We are top on the list...or, at least in the top 2...
shadowdrinker Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 517

02-28-2005, 10:25 PM	#12
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Why extend Haslett's contract? However..Tags and crew are just convinced that L.A. is a must have... It makes sense for the 2008 season opener of the Los Angeles Diablos . Tag sees the huge market factor , a market that is 50 % Hispanic with these numbers growing daily . The Coliseum is a pit even the Raider players were afraid to go in and out of . The Rose Bowl and Anaheim stadium are the only other venues even close enough to hold an N.F.L. game in . The Rose Bowl is not interested from last I heard and Anaheim stadium would put the team behind the orange curtain with the most finiky fan base . Another rumor in the wind is the the league is going to deny the sale of the Vikings to the prospective owner based upon his financial situation . He has the money to get the Vikes but not much more .....
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	\"Americans play to win at all times. I wouldn\'t give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed.\" - George S. Patton On another note, I\'ll take a bite of that crow 08. - Saintfan Brooks is a moron!! - Halo

03-01-2005, 04:08 AM	#13
shadowdrinker Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 517	Why extend Haslett's contract? Another rumor in the wind is the the league is going to deny the sale of the Vikings to the prospective owner based upon his financial situation . He has the money to get the Vikes but not much more ..... [/quote:847df3eda1] I have heard about this too..He made his money in Plastic cups and stuff like that I believe...and while he would ahev the money..The League can nay afford a Bankrupt Owner, who mave have gotten in over his head...The Financial Office will have the final say... However..The League also has interest in seeing the first black Owner come into the League..and that may come into play...
shadowdrinker Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 517

03-01-2005, 11:42 AM	#14
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Why extend Haslett's contract? The League can nay afford a Bankrupt Owner, who mave have gotten in over his head...The Financial Office will have the final say... If they want a team in the Los Angeles area so bad why wouldn\'t the league block the sale and bring in an owner from the Los Angeles area to fill that void . The Los Angeles area is a lot more finicky about it\'s teams , the goal should be to start from scratch , New Team with a new name and logo .Initial sales would boom because of the inagural season merchandise . Los Angeles Matadors If they move someone elses team to Los Angeles then they will be moving that team back in 5 years . If the Raiders did not make it with the black and silver and the crossbones , no way the Saints in black and gold and a French Crest on the side of their helmet would .
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	\"Americans play to win at all times. I wouldn\'t give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed.\" - George S. Patton On another note, I\'ll take a bite of that crow 08. - Saintfan Brooks is a moron!! - Halo

03-01-2005, 12:13 PM	#15
johnnythesaint 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 125	Why extend Haslett's contract? Unless they pull a tennesee oilers to tennesee titans kind of transformation once they are there
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03-01-2005, 12:33 PM	#16
shadowdrinker Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 517	Why extend Haslett's contract? If they want a team in the Los Angeles area so bad why wouldn\'t the league block the sale and bring in an owner from the Los Angeles area to fill that void . I think the Leagus isn\'t overly concerned with the Vikings somehow screwing up the L.A. thing, by selling, or whatever.. The only real interset shown by an Owner to move to L.A. has come from Benson...He is the only one who has mentioned out in the open that moving was a strong possibility... The other Owners may be using the L.A. scenario as a lure to get more funding for a new Stadium...But none have hinted or even mentioned the possibility of the teamactually moving if they didn\'t get thier way...Benson has... I don\'t think the League as a whole has too many concerns as to who will be moving...all fingers, including that of the Team Owner, point in this direction..
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03-01-2005, 01:50 PM	#17
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Why extend Haslett's contract? So far, I like the direction this team is headed. I like the plan. Hey Billy, I\'m not trying to pick on you, but what, exactly, is that direction? As far as I can tell, this looks exactly like the past three or four offseasons. Haslett promises BIG changes that will really work this time. In reality, the team lets coaches leave and just promotes some position coach with some questions as to his performance IN NEW ORLEANS. Then they hire some veteran position coaches and convince the fans that this will fix everything. In FA, they tagged Howard, and are talking about making very few moves, maybe at OG or S - nevermind LB... Yes, I\'m omitting a number of rumors, and speculation. I\'m making a point - and that is that things don\'t seem to be going in a new or different direction to me. So seriously, what do you see that I\'m missing?
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03-01-2005, 02:03 PM	#18
BreesFN9 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 596	Why extend Haslett's contract? I\'m with WhoDat on this one. I was surprised that even with the 4 wins to end out the season Haslett was able to keep his job. They did win but there were several coaching decisions or non decisions that could\'ve cost any one of those remaining games. Letting D Brooks run free at A Brooks all day without double teaming him in the TB games is just one. He seems to let the problems that go on, Go on just a little too long in my mind.....Kinda sounds like Benson???

03-01-2005, 02:05 PM	#19
baronm 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 954	Why extend Haslett's contract? I\'m starting to wonder if the theory about NEw orleans not attracting good football people is true.
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03-01-2005, 02:13 PM	#20
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Why extend Haslett's contract? WhoDat -- Obviously we BOTH see all the mistakes Haslett and co. have made in the past. It seems you think the mistakes will continue or that we will get no better as long as Haslett and co. are in charge. That\'s where we differ. I\'m not saying Haslett is gonna get the job done, I really have no way of knowing that. If you want to point to the past and make your case against Haslett then, you win. In the past Haslett has failed. There\'s no changing that. Why do I like the direction of this team? Well, for one, I think Haslett got away from the smash-mouth style on both offense and defense and went finesse on us. And as a result, I think we\'ve gotten beat-up on both sides of the ball. Maybe I\'m old-school. But, I believe games are won and lost in the trenches. Our offensive line has really killed us, in one way or anothe, the past couple of seasons. Haslett appears to be addressing that this offseason. So, I like the direction he is going with the offensive line. Also, penalties have killed us on offense. Haslett is simplifying the offensive termonology and reducing the number of redudant plays. I think that will help. It makes sense to ME. I like that change. Haslett is also planning to utilize Deuce more in both the runniing and passing game. I like the direction he is going there. Mike Sheppard is going to utlize more offensive sets with Deuce and Aaron Stecker on the field together with Stecker getting more screen passess. I like the sound of that. On defense, it looks like Tebucky is gone and we\'re going to get a safety that will make some plays. I like the sound of that. On defense they changed the \"scheme\" the last 4-games and I saw the biggest improvement in years. I like the direction they are headed there. We\'ve got Mike McKenzie from jump this year. I like that. We will also have another number one pick this year. Most likely on defense. That\'s some of the more positive things I see...
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